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Can't let you get away with this BS. Trump didn't believe in NATO and John Bolton said recently said that Trump wanted to pull the U.S. out. He has been until the last couple of days cheering Putin on and calling him a genius. He would not have been able to unite NATO like Biden has because nobody in NATO trusted him. He has been an apologist for Putin for years. Compromised maybe?
I'm glad someone responded to him and called him out. He has alot of us on ignore. It maybe where you are headed as he doesn't like being challenged with facts haha!
 
Unless a NATO country comes under direct attack or there's casus belli, say a number of NATO jets were shot down, I can't see NATO fighting directly.

Perhaps if there was some form of mass atrocities too. But, the real case is that it appears as if they will not have to as long as the direction continues.

If the news of NATO countries providing jets is too, I suspect that we, the US and other countries will agree to cover their airspace for the foreseeable future.

They'll provide their jets for Ukraine to use, we'll cover them and then over a period of time they'll be provided F-16s or something similar.

I suspect the same will happen with PGMs, which the Ukrainians will use to hit the Russian convoys, logistics depots/camps and command and control.

We'll then offer them weapons to restock their arsenals. Russia is showing itself to be (at best) a second tier army with the moral and desire of a third tier.

As long as we keep the Ukrainians stocked up to fight, I can't see Russia coming out of this well militarily or politically; they'll be back in the doldrums.

I took it with a pinch of salt, but before I was told that Russian casualties (not deaths) are reaching nearly ten thousand, with deaths in the low thousands.

The same person said there's reports of growing 'disharmony' at military camps back in Russia. If the army turn on Putin, it could all unravel rather quickly.



Rightly or wrongly, I suspect that countries, including ourselves, didn't expect Ukraine to stand up to Russia so well, therefore this is more out of necessity.

To not support them when they're actually giving the Russians a bloody good fight would be like burning votes.
Good lord, haven’t even done much urban fighting yet.

Which the Ukrainians are preparing for
 
Can't let you get away with this BS. Trump didn't believe in NATO and John Bolton said recently said that Trump wanted to pull the U.S. out. He has been until the last couple of days cheering Putin on and calling him a genius. He would not have been able to unite NATO like Biden has because nobody in NATO trusted him. He has been an apologist for Putin for years. Compromised maybe?
Spot on
 
Anyone know where Kev the Rat has gone? As shocking as the situation in Ukraine is, this thread is a bit less interesting without his analysis.

I hope he's ok. Genuinely think there's a strong chance he's been discovered in his room, fallen foul to some auto-erotic asphyxiation session gone wrong, with hentai porn playing in the background :(

He’s volunteered for the Spetzsnaz mate.

Look out for a Russian fighter on the news, wearing an Everton hat and crouched behind a wall, with a laptop, buying bitcoins.
 
Good lord, haven’t even done much urban fighting yet.

Which the Ukrainians are preparing for

It'll be a blood bath although I suspect for both sides. We called it FISH and CHIPS - fighting in someone's house and causing havoc in people's streets.*

No solider, and I mean no soldier, will look forward to that, and it'll be worse if the Russians cause mayhem by using or air or artillery on the area.

Every house, basement and crater becomes a fortress. You have restricted movement, lots of technology becomes redundant and vision is totally diminished.

For the defender, lots of every day items become weapons (petrol bombs, IEDS, booby traps), while they have great protection and vision including from above.

Logistics is even more of a nightmare than it usually is - the Russians will hate this - and debris will causes lots of casualties, which are harder to extract.

The first doctrine to FIBUA* fighting is to avoid it - and that's the actual official line! *The official terms is FIBUA or fighting in built-up areas.
 
For months intel was showing the Russians building up along the border. Maybe they should have increased the military equipment been sent into the Ukraine back then. Can’t help but see that as a failure.

If we had started before the invasion then it would have made the war inevitable and probably have just brought it forward.

Yes he probably was going to invade anyhow but to not give dialogue a chance to succeed would have been a sad state of affairs. Also gave us the moral high ground too as Putin could have used the 'western countries are arming Ukraine' as a legitimate reason to go in.
 
Read somewhere that the Russian soldier death toll is already assumed to be higher than the US death toll for the entirity of the Iraq war and the years that followed.

I know Ukraine obviously has a better army and weapons but that’s still pretty mad
 
Read somewhere that the Russian soldier death toll is already assumed to be higher than the US death toll for the entirity of the Iraq war and the years that followed.

I know Ukraine obviously has a better army and weapons but that’s still pretty mad
It’s more than ours for Iraq, Afghanistan and the Falkland’s combined. It’ll probably be greater than the total if you throw in Banner too!
 
Anyone know where Kev the Rat has gone? As shocking as the situation in Ukraine is, this thread is a bit less interesting without his analysis.

I hope he's ok. Genuinely think there's a strong chance he's been discovered in his room, fallen foul to some auto-erotic asphyxiation session gone wrong, with hentai porn playing in the background :(
He corrupted the feed back echoe in the chamber too much. Got a thread ban.
 
Ukraine’s use of POW videos make me very uneasy tbh

I get the pr value but there have been longstanding objections to their use for good reasons.
I know what you mean Legs, and broadly speaking I think you're right, but this guys message is powerful, there seems to be no coercion. Then you see images like this:


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I'd fight with every weapon I could. I'd have to.
 
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