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[Cork Evertonian]

I've liked a few boycott Russia pages on Facebook.

If we leave them take over Ukraine, do we then leave them take over Poland, and other parts of eastern europe as well?

We are in a very uncertain period right now. I'm sure most of us remember the kursk submarine tragedy.

Putins handling of that incident, was the first warning sign that he was a wrong un.

 

[Kev The Rat]

I've liked a few boycott Russia pages on Facebook.

If we leave them take over Ukraine, do we then leave them take over Poland, and other parts of eastern europe as well?

We are in a very uncertain period right now. I'm sure most of us remember the kursk submarine tragedy.

Putins handling of that incident, was the first warning sign that he was a wrong un.

Convinced now that nato would abandon Poland and Romania etc.

Think about it. A war under those circumstances would be fought on NATO territory meaning loss of civilian life. Ultimately they’d probably need to use nukes against Russia to prevent it, and they wouldn’t want to put Western Europe/USA under threat of a nuclear strike.

 

[gonetomorrow]

Putin is a miserable little bugger. Can't he relax and enjoy life instead of being beastly to everyone?

 

[Bruce Wayne]

Convinced now that nato would abandon Poland and Romania etc.

Think about it. A war under those circumstances would be fought on NATO territory meaning loss of civilian life. Ultimately they’d probably need to use nukes against Russia to prevent it, and they wouldn’t want to put Western Europe/USA under threat of a nuclear strike.

They're not going to invade Poland as they can't do so under the pretense of "liberating Russian speakers" as there are practically none to liberate. Estonia, on the other hand, has about 500,000 ethnic Russians, especially in the east of the country. Latvia has similarly high numbers. Those would be the places worried right now I'd have thought.

 

[Kev The Rat]

They're not going to invade Poland as they can't do so under the pretense of "liberating Russian speakers" as there are practically none to liberate. Estonia, on the other hand, has about 500,000 ethnic Russians, especially in the east of the country. Latvia has similarly high numbers. Those would be the places worried right now I'd have thought.

There is a school of thought that Putin wants to put the Soviet empire back together. Given some of his statements and general state of mind, I wouldn’t rule that possibility out. Which means Poland, whose hatred of the Russians goes back centuries, would be part of the plan.

I don’t know what pretext would be used under those circumstances, but Poland would be in the firing line.

 

[NilSatisOptimum]

Tough sanctions will show Russia we mean business. Not...

 

[tsubaki]

I've liked a few boycott Russia pages on Facebook.

If we leave them take over Ukraine, do we then leave them take over Poland, and other parts of eastern europe as well?

We are in a very uncertain period right now. I'm sure most of us remember the kursk submarine tragedy.

Putins handling of that incident, was the first warning sign that he was a wrong un.

TBF his shameful behaviour goes way back, if you want to be horrified further read up about the Moscow apartment bombings

 

[Kev The Rat]

Putins statement on tv yesterday was interesting.

Resist and there will be further bloodshed. So any attack on Russian troops would now justify a march on Kiev.

Inevitable now I think.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

There is a school of thought that Putin wants to put the Soviet empire back together. Given some of his statements and general state of mind, I wouldn’t rule that possibility out. Which means Poland, whose hatred of the Russians goes back centuries, would be part of the plan.

I don’t know what pretext would be used under those circumstances, but Poland would be in the firing line.

Poland wasn't part of the Soviet Union.

 

[neil999]

There is a school of thought that Putin wants to put the Soviet empire back together. Given some of his statements and general state of mind, I wouldn’t rule that possibility out. Which means Poland, whose hatred of the Russians goes back centuries, would be part of the plan.

I don’t know what pretext would be used under those circumstances, but Poland would be in the firing line.

Everthing i have read says he is an imperialist eussian and not interested in the ussr at all

 

[orchard]

@Joey66

Should I double my usual sowing of turnips?

 

[Kev The Rat]

Poland wasn't part of the Soviet Union.

Where did I refer to the Soviet Union?

 

[Bruce Wayne]

A new history of sanctions has unsettling lessons for today

Sometimes they create the problem they are trying to solve

www.economist.com

Sanctions did not work in a deglobalising world, and contributed to its continued fracturing, in turn setting the stage for the second world war. Mr Mulder is too careful a historian to labour the parallels between what happened in the inter-war period and today, when geopolitics is once again fractious and globalisation is in retreat. But the lessons are sobering.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

Where did I refer to the Soviet Union?

Oh, I see, you think we'll be having tanks rolling down Narodni Trida again

 

[Kev The Rat]

Everthing i have read says he is an imperialist eussian and not interested in the ussr at all

Imperialist Russian yes - he looks back to Peter and Catherine for what he views as the empire

Certainly Poland was part of that