Current Affairs Ukraine

[LinekersLegs]

Getting the impression that, at least in the EU, there is now a high level assumption that if Putin takes Ukraine it is only going to be a matter of time before one of the Nato countries gets invaded so might as well try to bring him down now with everything short of military engagement.

 

[slipstream86]

Apologies - yes to your last point

And to the first point - sure let NATO fire a few bullets and go home - nothing likely to happen there.

I think that it would be foolish to assume that war between NATO and Russia could never exist. All it takes is a miscalculation by one side, a stray rocket, a mis-identified aircraft, an overcooked retaliation, and the world could have blundered it's way into WW3.


Have a read of William J Perrys website. (former sec def to Bill Clinton)

https://www.wjperryproject.org/

 

[Mutzo Nutzo]

Ukrainian counter offensive now believed to be underway. No details of exactly where or what’s involved yet.

 

[summerisle]

Shows how desperate they must be if some go to Belarus.

 

[Prevenger17]

This really. Ukraine is now so anti-Russia that the genie will never be put back in the bottle. Putin has made a complete arse of this, he assumes that military strength of 200,000 can overcome a determined country of 44Million supported by the USA, U.K., EU… He may even win, short time, but knows that eventually Ukraine will kick his arse out of the country……Putin is toast….

Yeah he's done. He's had a long, comfortable time at the top but he's made a meal of this and there's only one way it's going to go for him.

 

[Mrk]

Getting the impression that, at least in the EU, there is now a high level assumption that if Putin takes Ukraine it is only going to be a matter of time before one of the Nato countries gets invaded so might as well try to bring him down now with everything short of military engagement.

Indeed - or, at the very least, begin to squeeze Russia hard now so that cobbling together any kind of competent invasion force would be near impossible in the future.

 

[FrenchDarrenBent]

Getting the impression that, at least in the EU, there is now a high level assumption that if Putin takes Ukraine it is only going to be a matter of time before one of the Nato countries gets invaded so might as well try to bring him down now with everything short of military engagement.

I can officially say that's not true. Emotions run high but is basically political postering.
NATO has slapped some EU-members on the wrist because of provocative statements and deliveries of jets. Cant believe I write this but the USA is actually the adult here.

 

[devogue]

Ukrainian counter offensive now believed to be underway. No details of exactly where or what’s involved yet.

where you seeing this?

 

[Kev The Rat]

I think that it would be foolish to assume that war between NATO and Russia could never exist. All it takes is a miscalculation by one side, a stray rocket, a mis-identified aircraft, an overcooked retaliation, and the world could have blundered it's way into WW3.


Have a read of William J Perrys website. (former sec def to Bill Clinton)

https://www.wjperryproject.org/

Which would then, within hours, or a few days turn into an all out nuclear war - which was the point I was making

Apologies for the mis use of the word MAD

 

[JammyP]

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[Mutzo Nutzo]

where you seeing this?

 

[NilSatisOptimum]

Getting the impression that, at least in the EU, there is now a high level assumption that if Putin takes Ukraine it is only going to be a matter of time before one of the Nato countries gets invaded so might as well try to bring him down now with everything short of military engagement.

Lot of the rhetoric today for me has been about it being Putin's Ukraine now... It's gone!

 

[devogue]

They definetly need to try something before those troops in the east get completely [Poor language removed]

 

[toffee82]

Yeah he's done. He's had a long, comfortable time at the top but he's made a meal of this and there's only one way it's going to go for him.

It's this which makes him more scary.

He could be more dangerous once he has nothing left to lose.

 

[summerisle]