Current Affairs Ukraine

[Lapeno77]

Is everyone still alive?

Nah, died 6 months ago. COVID vaccine apparently.

And let me tell you, the afterlife ain't all that.

 

[Spadge Vernacular]

This guy isn't afraid of death at all.

 

[Eidean]

Is there signs of Ukrainian groups in Crimea and other territory that Russia occupy who will carry on causing trouble for Russia if they retain them post peace talks?

Wouldn’t surprise me.

 

[Spadge Vernacular]

Is there signs of Ukrainian groups in Crimea and other territory that Russia occupy who will carry on causing trouble for Russia if they retain them post peace talks?

Maybe we could ask the Irish.

 

[Exeter_Gently]

This guy isn't afraid of death at all.

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Russia's strongman right there.

 

[Rita_Poon]

always reminds me of Karl Stromberg from 'the spy who loved me' that pic.

 

[Xizor]

Wouldn’t surprise me.

Dave will be sure to fly over and remind them that we all decided for them they'd 'achieved' peace and they're to pack it in and knuckle down under their new overlords.

 

[PhilM]

Regardless of what some may want us to believe, the likelihood of Russia using any form of nuclear weapon is slim or miniscule, to none. Sorry, it ain't happening.

Did they use them during the Cold War? No. Now, they're in a weaker position militarily, financially and in power, so to use them would be akin to suicide.

Some may talk about the caged tiger, but there'll be cronies in power (military and political) who'd want to save their own skin rather than follow Putin down the road.

 

[BlueToff]

I want the war over today...But that means a complete draw back to the 1991 borders.

Till then Ukraine as a sovereign country has the right to defend itself by ANY means necessary.

It's dead simple really.

No it doesn't. If Putin had really wanted to take Kyiv back by force he'd have done it two years ago.

Ofc Ukraine has a right to defend itself. But the reason its having to defend itself in the first place is as much on the West as it is Putin.

The only way this war stops is some form of concession and sadly the ones who have to concede are Ukraine. But the West has pinned itself into such a corner that it is the only way out. But we had Boris, on behalf of the US, telling Ukraine to pull out of negotiations back in 2022.

How exactly does this end other than concessions or Russia winning? There is no other way out - other than WW3.

 

[BlueToff]

Regardless of what some may want us to believe, the likelihood of Russia using any form of nuclear weapon is slim or miniscule, to none. Sorry, it ain't happening.

Did they use them during the Cold War? No. Now, they're in a weaker position militarily, financially and in power, so to use them would be akin to suicide.

Some may talk about the caged tiger, but there'll be cronies in power (military and political) who'd want to save their own skin rather than follow Putin down the road.

I don't think they will either. But it's not to say they won't start escalating even more in terms of their bombardments on Ukraine.

And it's those people and that country that everyone should be trying to save as much as is possible nearly 3 years on.

 

[PhilM]

No it doesn't. If Putin had really wanted to take Kyiv back by force he'd have done it two years ago.

Ofc Ukraine has a right to defend itself. But the reason its having to defend itself in the first place is as much on the West as it is Putin.

The only way this war stops is some form of concession and sadly the ones who have to concede are Ukraine. But the West has pinned itself into such a corner that it is the only way out. But we had Boris, on behalf of the US, telling Ukraine to pull out of negotiations back in 2022.

How exactly does this end other than concessions or Russia winning? There is no other way out - other than WW3.

 

[Spadge Vernacular]

If Putin had really wanted to take Kyiv back by force he'd have done it two years ago.

And that's numerwang.

 

[Spadge Vernacular]

Beat me too it

 

[Spadge Vernacular]

This thread gets the full GOT managed account team.

 

[davek]

Regardless of what some may want us to believe, the likelihood of Russia using any form of nuclear weapon is slim or miniscule, to none. Sorry, it ain't happening.

Did they use them during the Cold War? No. Now, they're in a weaker position militarily, financially and in power, so to use them would be akin to suicide.

Some may talk about the caged tiger, but there'll be cronies in power (military and political) who'd want to save their own skin rather than follow Putin down the road.

That's a complete misreading of Russia today under an autocrat and the Soviet Union ruled by a Politburo.

As Bluestevon says above: people call Putin a Hitler or a mad man...and then feel they're on safe ground to say such a person wont launch a nuclear weapon.

You cant have your cake and eat it too.