Current Affairs Ukraine

[davek]

Does it matter? It was a ballistic missile capable of carrying a nuclear warhead equipped with multiple re-entry vehicles.

But it wasn't an ICBM - which is a different kettle of fish with very different implications.

I know why the Ukrainians are spoofers: they pretty much have always needed NATO in this fight and boots on the ground to stand a chance of victory, so every pronouncement concerning the conduct of the war is a strange version of reality. I cant say I blame them in that respect. It's a regime fighting for survival. But they have been consistent spoofers.

 

[davek]

No one is lying they've analyzed this new Russian rocket which has the characteristics of an ICBM.

Eh?

That's more Ukrainian spin tacked onto a climbdown.

 

[Paulie]

We've got a such thing here called the NCF, the headquarters are Lancashire.

If anyone hits us we hit them back in kind.

We definitely don't stand by while other countries attack our cyber infrastructure.

I'll have to look it up. I mean more in terms of being snides like them and doing the old "we have nothing to do with it" act.

 

[davek]

What does this mean?

Oleksiy Goncharenko, an MP for Odesa, tells BBC News that the area hit was "mostly civilian", so there was no military impact.

"It's more about psychology," the Odesa lawmaker says.

Goncharenko adds that if the West doesn't "stand firmly" behind his country, then Putin will "finish Ukraine".

He adds that "the time has arrived" for maximum support of Ukraine from other countries.

I'm not sure what - beyond the supply of LR missiles, anti-personnel landmines, tanks, helicopters, drones, fighter planes, missile defence systems - the west can do.

Is this the last roll of the dice to appeal for boots on the ground?

 

[Mutzo Nutzo]

But it wasn't an ICBM - which is a different kettle of fish with very different implications.

Why is an ICBM a different kettle of fish? And what are the implications?

 

[davek]

Why is an ICBM a different kettle of fish? And what are the implications?

It travels further and that has OBVIOUS implications.

You're not daft. You know what the difference is.

 

[Exeter_Gently]

Eh?

That's more Ukrainian spin tacked onto a climbdown.

Am going to Costco...I'll deal with you when am back in the house with an 18 inch pizza and a gallon of iron brue.

 

[Spadge Vernacular]

'Torture 24 hours a day': Survivors reveal the dark cruelty of Russia's detention centres in occupied Ukraine

news.sky.com

 

[Spadge Vernacular]

About time!

Press Releases

Treasury Sanctions Gazprombank and Takes Additional Steps to Curtail Russia’s Use of the International Financial System​

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home.treasury.gov

 

[Eidean]

The claims are that it’s a RS-26 Rubezh which will make sense now that there’s “unconfirmed” reports & disagreements over if it’s a ICBM.

It was tested over 5,500km which by certain definitions makes it a ICBM.

In reality it’s an intermediate ballistic missile.

 

[Spadge Vernacular]

 

[ChesterBlue]

Why is an ICBM a different kettle of fish? And what are the implications?

If it were a ICBM they are usually used as a method of deploying strategic nuclear warheads, so it would be a huge symbol of escalation from Russia.

Thankfully whatever this was, it wasn’t a nuclear warhead equipped ICBM, but still very worrying

 

[Spadge Vernacular]

The Kremlin is notorious for its dog eat dog, mob type rule, enemies everywhere thus the extreme window cancer. You wonder how long can Putin survive in that desperate environment as the pressure ramps up. This sould have been done at least a year ago.

 

[Eidean]

Russia have already deployed short-range missiles that have nuclear warhead capabilities, Putin isn’t going to nuke Ukraine especially with Trump around the corner.

In reality it’s probably an old system that sits on the boundary of ICBM & has been intentionally used by Russia as a “message”.

All the bedwetting about “this is it” is hilarious.

 

[Rita_Poon]

Isn't russia looking at 20% inflation or similar? Aren't they having to offer cannon fodder wages and sign on bonuses because families are being starved into their sons being sent for slaughter? Suddenly the arms depot's they've built up are being attacked and they're crying about it. Sounds like the pressure is working. All the focus is on them, one wrong twitch and russia is gone. Could be worth the cost of trump ii if russia can be sent back in time a few hundred years.