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[Tipp blue]

Putin can be beaten,all it'll take is full NATO investment, probably leading to a nuclear war, either confined to Eastern Europe or worldwide. History has taught us that the first country to use a thermonuclear device will win. You happy to risk the US sacrificing themselves for Europe?

History hasn't taught us that...

 

[davids]

I think it’s clear that Putin’s obsessive fear of illness or poisoning shows just how much he values his life and power. But I am sure that he’s not someone willing to go down without a fight, but his biggest fear of that is internal. That said, I’d argue that the dynamics of war, and especially nuclear war, are different today than they were in World War II, precisely because the threat of mutually assured destruction now acts as a deterrent, even for someone like Putin.

Regarding World War II, I wouldn't downplay the immense suffering caused by the atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. While it’s true that the war did not involve a nuclear attack against "one" of the combatants, the use of nuclear weapons on Japan was a game-changing moment that reshaped global diplomacy. It’s an important distinction, because of the horror of that chapter in history and the lasting impact it had upon the world in understanding that mutually assured destruction is a very real threat..

You have far more faith in Putin's sanity than I do. I think a Doctor Strangelove outcome is far more likely than a peace deal that is acceptable to both sides.

 

[davids]

History hasn't taught us that...

So WW2 was a hoax?

 

[jazzy]

Just imagine how you would feel if you were Ukrainian and your future, the lives of you and your loved ones was inextricably linked to an election in which you have no voice

 

[Spadge Vernacular]

You have far more faith in Putin's sanity than I do. I think a Doctor Strangelove outcome is far more likely than a peace deal that is acceptable to both sides.

If he goes it will be at the hands of Russians, IMO. For that to come he needs to face losses in Ukraine and sadly for Russian folk for hardship to be felt in Russia.

 

[Tipp blue]

So WW2 was a hoax?

I think the lesson that would more accurately describe what you were trying to say would be,
The only country with neculear bombs would win, that isn't the case any more. You can't say historically the first country to use nukes wins, when there was only 1 country with them, I guess technically you are right but saying it the way you did makes you sound like you've been taking crystal meth.

 

[Mutzo Nutzo]

COVID didn't threaten Putin's power. A loss of face in this war definitely would. Don't you think Putin is insane?.I think he's the type who'd like to take everybody with him...a bit like Hitler who you constantly compare him (quite rightly ) with. Oh and maybe ask some Japanese if WW2 was a nuclear war or not.

Putin isn’t insane, he has family and I can’t imagine he’d want to see them vaporised because of something he was responsible for.

He’s a strategic thinker who pushes the boundaries given the military might at his disposal. He is also an imperialist who wants to reinstate Russia’s greatness and position in the world order.

I just think he’s gone about it in completely the wrong way. Given Russia’s assets in minerals and raw materials they could’ve leveraged them so much more constructively than simply invading other nations and being generally world snides.

 

[Tipp blue]

Putin isn’t insane, he has family and I can’t imagine he’d want to see them vaporised because of something he was responsible for.

He’s a strategic thinker who pushes the boundaries given the military might at his disposal. He is also an imperialist who wants to reinstate Russia’s greatness and position in the world order.

I just think he’s gone about it in completely the wrong way. Given Russia’s assets in minerals and raw materials they could’ve leveraged them so much more constructively than simply invading other nations and being generally world snides.

Putin can give the order to send nukes, but in Russia thankfully him giving the order dosent make it happen, there's a chain it has to go through for a launch to happen, multiple people would have to lose their minds simultaneously for a launch to happen, and everyone who has to approve a launch will have family and friends to think about. Unlike the USA where there is a much shorter chain, 3 people in some cases.

 

[davids]

I think the lesson that would more accurately describe what you were trying to say would be,
The only country with neculear bombs would win, that isn't the case any more. You can't say historically the first country to use nukes wins, when there was only 1 country with them, I guess technically you are right but saying it the way you did makes you sound like you've been taking crystal meth.

Some of the spelling mistakes in your reply... Crystal meth you say...

 

[davids]

And sadly on it goes.

 

[Tipp blue]

Some of the spelling mistakes in your reply... Crystal meth you say...

No decent response, just turning into the grammar police, this is just another way of letting people know that you know you were wrong and just too ignorant to admit it.

 

[davids]

No decent response, just turning into the grammar police, this is just another way of letting people know that you know you were wrong and just too ignorant to admit it.

Come on... crystal meth... Check out your spelling of nuclear. Hardly a job for the grammar police.

 

[Hinchcliffe's Corner]

Come on... crystal meth... Check out your spelling of nuclear. Hardly a job for the grammar police.

Elderly men don't use emojis. Grow up.

 

[tantavisiteler]

not a great morning to wake up to for Zelenskiy I'd imagine

 

[davek]

not a great morning to wake up to for Zelenskiy I'd imagine

Not a great morning for him and his cronies, no. The garvy train just left town.

It is a great day for Ukrainian mothers though who'll see their sons kept safe if and when this war is ordered to be ended soon.