It’s not that simple. Yes the US election results will play a major part but also independently Ukraine will make the call with certain caveats. What those are we don’t know yet and whether Putin will accept them.
2025 IMO will see a ceasefire.
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2025 IMO will see a ceasefire.
Yarrgh
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God alone knows nowadays.
Anyway back to the war and senseless deaths and destruction.
Spadge Vernacular
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And Ukrainian views on the Russia problem.
Some findings regarding Ukrainian views on the war and peace. As of May 2024, a majority (55%) oppose any territorial concessions, while 32% are willing to consider them to hasten peace and preserve independence.
https://kiis.com.ua/?lang=eng&cat=reports&id=1421&page=1
https://www.ucl.ac.uk/news/headlines/2024/sep/ukrainians-increasingly-willing-cede-land-peace-survey
The views of Ukrainians, particularly those still living near frontlines, may be more supportive of peace talks with Russia, but the vast majority (over 80%) reject Russian demands to cede control over occupied regions like Donetsk, Luhansk, and Zaporizhzhia.
https://razumkov.org.ua/en/research...tude-to-elections-belief-in-victory-june-2024
Also worth noting from the findings in the above that “only 22% of respondents welcomed the idea of holding national elections in Ukraine (presidential or parliamentary) before the war end”.
It is logical to assume that a willingness to engage in peace discussions might reflect exhaustion with the prolonged conflict but there remains strong opposition to peace at any cost, particularly when it involves territorial losses.
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There'll be a ceasefire because the western powers will impose it on Ukraine.
Everything barring a full NATO intervention has been tried to get Ukraine a victory and it has to end. There's very little political will left i Europe apart from the Baltic states and Poland; the issue is a polarising one in the US and any new president will want it quickly off the table.
Russia played the long game and they will prevail.
davids
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Here's a score update. Ukraine hit two Russian arms depots to Russia hitting one Patriot missile system...
davids
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Think the discussion on this thread is about the Russian invasion of Ukraine, maybe check the title page? Not one of mine has been pro Russian,if you want to join the dimwit Desktop Battalion and pretend I have,on you go.
Spadge Vernacular
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You need to apply potato filters with old tuber brain, mate.
Spadge Vernacular
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I suppose this could go in the WW3 thread.
Missile Strike Near Donetsk Eliminates 6 North Korean Officers – Intel
Six officers from North Korea were among the 20 soldiers killed in a Ukrainian missile strike on Russian-occupied territory near Donetsk, intelligence sources say.www.kyivpost.com
North Korean soldiers are likely dying for Putin in Ukraine, Seoul says
“More North Korean troops could be deployed in the war,” warns South Korean defense minister.www.politico.eu
North Korea is ‘highly likely’ sending troops to fight for Russia in Ukraine
South Korean defence minister says ‘highly likely’ North Korean soldiers killed in Ukraine warwww.independent.co.uk
North Koreans deployed alongside Russian troops in Ukraine, sources say
Engineers said to be supporting missile launches and reports of North Koreans killed near Donetsk
Hinchcliffe's Corner
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Thanks for not answering the question again Spud. It's quite relevant, but either you're too dimwitted to see it, or too embarrassed to write down what you actually think.Think the discussion on this thread is about the Russian invasion of Ukraine, maybe check the title page? Not one of mine has been pro Russian,if you want to join the dimwit Desktop Battalion and pretend I have,on you go.
davids
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The title of the page too difficult for you?
No sign of any post from me being pro-Russian?
Carry on Dimwit.
Tommy.
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The title of the page too difficult for you?
No sign of any post from me being pro-Russian?
Carry on Dimwit.
Let's flip it.
Show us your pro-Uke posts.
You have 1000's of posts in this thread, show us 3 which display some solidarity with a nation defending itself.
Hinchcliffe's Corner
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Let's bring it back to what was actually said. You are saying that death is permanent and suffering is temporary essentially. When countries invade each other they wipe out cultures, self esteem, loss of identity, the list goes on. This has detrimental long term issues for the native population of a country. So basically you telling the Ukranians to suck it up and become Russian is probably something you'd tell Native Indians, Aboriginal, Maori etc right? That worked out really well for them.The title of the page too difficult for you?
No sign of any post from me being pro-Russian?
Carry on Dimwit.
This’ll be interesting
Tommy.
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Wait until he finds out I'm ex military...
davids
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Take a look at the map of Ukraine maybe? You might find that if there's a ceasefire tomorrow those who would come under Russian influence would be... ethnic Russians. If they make Dumb and Dumber 3 you'd be nailed on to get a leading role.
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