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Look at you using the pro-Ukrainian terminology for Russian advances.

Seriously though, due to the nature of fighting there it would appear defensive positions lose far less than the attacking force. Allowing Russian advances whilst balancing minimisation of Ukrainian losses against those gains (and Russian losses) is probably the tactical plan to follow, and possibly what they are doing even though it can be brutal.
Totally agree. This is a war about fixed defensive lines, massed artillery, EW and drones.

Ukraine has determined that at this time it’s better for them to fall back to favourable prepared defences and wait for the Russian meat assaults to break on their positions. Russia was losing over 1000 men and hundreds of armoured vehicles every day during the Kharkiv offensive in May. Hard to see how any army even Russia’s with its massed mobilisation program and war economy footing can sustain those losses over time.

No wonder Putin’s in Pyongyang with his begging bowl.
 
Look at you using the pro-Ukrainian terminology for Russian advances.

Seriously though, due to the nature of fighting there it would appear defensive positions lose far less than the attacking force. Allowing Russian advances whilst balancing minimisation of Ukrainian losses against those gains (and Russian losses) is probably the tactical plan to follow, and possibly what they are doing even though it can be brutal.
Why would it be "pro-Ukrainian terminology? I've asked the same question of countless posters on this thread,show one post I've made that is pro-Russian. Just because I don't post Slava Ukraine every five minutes doesn't by default make me anti-Ukrainian. Unlike most if not all of the posters on this thread I've actually spent time in Ukraine (when it was part of the USSR) and I speak with Ukrainian refugees here in Spain a couple of times a week at least.
 
Why would it be "pro-Ukrainian terminology? I've asked the same question of countless posters on this thread,show one post I've made that is pro-Russian. Just because I don't post Slava Ukraine every five minutes doesn't by default make me anti-Ukrainian. Unlike most if not all of the posters on this thread I've actually spent time in Ukraine (when it was part of the USSR) and I speak with Ukrainian refugees here in Spain a couple of times a week at least.
It was a small leg pull. Trading land for time is a phrase that's given a distinct eyebrow raise and knowing look by Russian language commentators.
 
oh I agree.

I took Pete’s question to mean who’s winning or has an advantage right now. Right now I can’t see anyone with an advantage
Attrition usually favors one side or the other, but it's not always clear which until after the fact. The only thing that's certain about the official numbers on both sides is that they're lies. Estimates from neutral sources vary widely.

Ukraine is likely in for a bad time if Trump wins. They need materiel to prosecute the war, it takes the United States to supply a war machine of this magnitude, and Trump seems likely to turn the spigot off, whether by act of Congress or the veto. Your guess is as good as mine what happens in November. I still don't like the polling data series, but even the polls most determined to shove people into a box are coming up with five percent undecided, and a dead heat at the national level. If the undecideds break toward Biden, he can win.

China is being cagey about how they support Putin, but it's hard to see them concluding that abandoning him entirely is in their interest. I wouldn't expect Putin to run out of ordinance, but I wouldn't expect the PRC to render him flush with it either. Their interests are best served by a Pyrrhic Russian victory, and they want to dodge sanctions from the West insofar as it's possible.

Both sides are struggling to find troops. Putin is turning out women's prisons. Zelenskyy has conscription squads roaming the streets looking for draft dodgers who have gone into hiding. Russian cruelty has kept morale up among those under arms in Ukraine, but they're running out of willing (enough) participants.

If political leadership on both sides knew the truth of the situation, they would probably come to the conference table, but they don't. There's ample reason for both sides to think all they have to do is keep doing what they're doing, and that the opponent will break first. The one thing I think we do know is that when the end comes, it will be much like World War I, or the US Civil War. It will happen fast.
 
It was a small leg pull. Trading land for time is a phrase that's given a distinct eyebrow raise and knowing look by Russian language commentators.
I've only ever heard it on the YouTube channel videos posted of Ozzie, Polish and Brit fighters in the Ukrainian Legion. They're all I'll watch because you know they are telling the truth about the situation on the frontline. In saying that I don't bother much because it's becoming depressingly predictable.
 
Attrition usually favors one side or the other, but it's not always clear which until after the fact. The only thing that's certain about the official numbers on both sides is that they're lies. Estimates from neutral sources vary widely.

Ukraine is likely in for a bad time if Trump wins. They need materiel to prosecute the war, it takes the United States to supply a war machine of this magnitude, and Trump seems likely to turn the spigot off, whether by act of Congress or the veto. Your guess is as good as mine what happens in November. I still don't like the polling data series, but even the polls most determined to shove people into a box are coming up with five percent undecided, and a dead heat at the national level. If the undecideds break toward Biden, he can win.

China is being cagey about how they support Putin, but it's hard to see them concluding that abandoning him entirely is in their interest. I wouldn't expect Putin to run out of ordinance, but I wouldn't expect the PRC to render him flush with it either. Their interests are best served by a Pyrrhic Russian victory, and they want to dodge sanctions from the West insofar as it's possible.

Both sides are struggling to find troops. Putin is turning out women's prisons. Zelenskyy has conscription squads roaming the streets looking for draft dodgers who have gone into hiding. Russian cruelty has kept morale up among those under arms in Ukraine, but they're running out of willing (enough) participants.

If political leadership on both sides knew the truth of the situation, they would probably come to the conference table, but they don't. There's ample reason for both sides to think all they have to do is keep doing what they're doing, and that the opponent will break first. The one thing I think we do know is that when the end comes, it will be much like World War I, or the US Civil War. It will happen fast.
Attritional war only benefits the defenders,if the are properly dug in with good communications and line of supply. Which is why the Ukrainian Summer Offensive floundered.Hence the jibes about Russians fighting with shovels when in fact they were reservists coming along after the frontline troops to dig deep trenches. Unfortunately for Ukraine, Legion troops are reporting that the contractors who were paid to build defence lines in the north took the money but didn't build much of anything.
 

Meanwhile in the real world:“We’re all in good shape now. We played a match against Brazil today. We had a very good performance. It’ll be interesting to face the Russian team. Over all, everything is great and we’re enjoying Kazan very much,” said Elina Rahimi, a tennis player from Iran.

The men’s semi-finalists were China, Belarus, and Iran, who beat India 3-2 in a tight match.
 
Surely Putin wouldn’t be able to call on mercs (aka infantry) from the DPRK for his meat grinder? He must be approaching those levels of desperation by now if he’s calling up female prisoners for the trenches. Be interesting how that would be viewed by the West.

All be irrelevant after the next US election mind 😕
 

Ridiculousness of the day: Russian wins "alternative Olympics" in Russia, being the only one in the tournament​

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Oleksandr ChekanovSport18.06.2024 09:44

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Maltsev won the BRICS Games

Russian synchronized swimmer Alexander Maltsev has achieved a "phenomenal" result at the BRICS Games, which Russia organized in Kazan and calls an alternative to the 2024 Olympics. The swimmer became the first in the free program and took the gold medal, and he had no rivals.

Maltsev was the only one to compete in this event. He scored 211.654 points and climbed to the podium alone. After his "enchanting" performance, the athlete added that he was not embarrassed by the lack of rivals.
Ridiculousness of the day: Russian wins ''alternative Olympics'' in Russia, being the only one in the tournament


"I was more in tune to show the best possible performance of the program. The main thing is to be able to perform here at the BRICS Games," Maltsev said.

The Russian had a harder time in the technical program. Here he had only one opponent, a representative of Thailand. Maltsev outscored his opponent by 58.

 
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