Current Affairs Ukraine

[Yarrgh]

FFS at least tag the correct poster mate.

I try to avoid the 'current affairs' forum like the plague and wondered why the Hell I was being tagged in here.

I'm sorry, I just made the biggest bobo tagging someone* in about someone else's lunacy.

*especially someone smart enough to stay out of the CA forum.

 

[Yarrgh]

Personally don't think he will

I agree, but there's too many crazies out there at the minute.

 

[Mutzo Nutzo]

Not really a call for a cease fire is it? More like a demand from Vlad to bend over as he goes in dry.

 

[davids]

No action footage thankfully just an interview with a Brit lad whose been there for a while.

 

[Goat]

No action footage thankfully just an interview with a Brit lad whose been there for a while.

Yes mate, hes on the front line and totally not in his bedsit in Stoke.

 

[peteblue]

Does anyone have a view on who, if anyone, is actually winning this war, or at least gaining the advantage. @Mutzo Nutzo ? ……

 

[Spadge Vernacular]

ISW Key Takeaways:

• The vast majority of the countries and international organizations that participated in the Ukraine-initiated Global Peace Summit in Switzerland on June 15-16 signed a joint communique on June 16 reaffirming support for Ukraine's sovereignty and territorial integrity.
• A limited prison break and hostage situation at a Russian pretrial detention center in Rostov-on-Don, Rostov Oblast, prompted Russian ultranationalist complaints highlighting Russia's failure to crack down against domestic Islamic extremism following the March 22 Crocus City Hall terrorist attack.
• The Kremlin and Kremlin affiliates continue efforts to use Russia's relationship with Republika Srpska (the Serbian political entity within Bosnia and Herzegovina) to destabilize the Balkans.
• Russian forces recently advanced near Vovchansk and Donetsk City.
• The Russian military reportedly continues to coerce Russian conscripts into signing military service contracts with the Russian Ministry of Defense (MoD), likely as part of ongoing crypto-mobilization efforts.

Institute for the Study of War

This page collects ISW and CTP's updates on the conflict in Ukraine. In late February 2022, ISW began publishing daily synthetic products covering key events related to renewed Russian aggression against Ukraine.

www.understandingwar.org

 

[davids]

Yes mate, hes on the front line and totally not in his bedsit in Stoke.

Yes he's doing his bit rather than waving a virtue flag.

 

[Mutzo Nutzo]

Does anyone have a view on who, if anyone, is actually winning this war, or at least gaining the advantage. @Mutzo Nutzo ? ……

No one is winning this war - it’s attrition.

 

[tsubaki]

No one is winning this war - it’s attrition.

I disagree entirely- Ukraine wins if it’s still a free state in charge of its own destiny after this ends.

 

[Kurt.]

Does anyone have a view on who, if anyone, is actually winning this war, or at least gaining the advantage. @Mutzo Nutzo ? ……

The arms dealers

 

[Mutzo Nutzo]

I disagree entirely- Ukraine wins if it’s still a free state in charge of its own destiny after this ends.

oh I agree.

I took Pete’s question to mean who’s winning or has an advantage right now. Right now I can’t see anyone with an advantage

 

[davids]

Does anyone have a view on who, if anyone, is actually winning this war, or at least gaining the advantage. @Mutzo Nutzo ? ……

Nobody,it's just become a war of attrition. Huge losses on both sides over every metre of land. Although the Brit lad fighting for the Legion in the video I posted said Ukraine are changing tactics and falling back to trade land for time. Which given their manpower issue is probably a prudent approach.

 

[Yarrgh]

Nobody,it's just become a war of attrition. Huge losses on both sides over every metre of land. Although the Brit lad fighting for the Legion in the video I posted said Ukraine are changing tactics and falling back to trade land for time. Which given their manpower issue is probably a prudent approach.

Look at you using the pro-Ukrainian terminology for Russian advances.

Seriously though, due to the nature of fighting there it would appear defensive positions lose far less than the attacking force. Allowing Russian advances whilst balancing minimisation of Ukrainian losses against those gains (and Russian losses) is probably the tactical plan to follow, and possibly what they are doing even though it can be brutal.

 

[davids]

I disagree entirely- Ukraine wins if it’s still a free state in charge of its own destiny after this ends.

Putin appears to have drawn the line for his pyrrhic victory as the regions he unilaterally declared as Russian plus a "buffer zone" Given how much the war has cost Russia in manpower and military hardware it's not likely that he'd try for more. Although digging in and keeping that territory will give Russia a different set of problems.