Current Affairs Ukraine

[Drico]

A test in democracy. Pure brinksmanship. Can the bloc vote Hungary out for shilling for putin? or invent a new majority rule where one vote against can be over ruled. The sharpened swords and hammers and sickles of communisms glory days die hard.

Under current rules, no. Orban just needs one other country to block any sanction on Hungary. Up to now, he has had Poland. Now he has Slovakia. Germany and France want to change the rules to allow majority voting on foreign affairs, for example, to eliminate Orban's veto. But smaller countries are wary of this as they feel that will then be extended to taxation, etc. The reality of the EU is countries want, say, Germany to "lead", i.e., stump up the money, but don't actually want Germany to "lead", i.e., make decisions commensurate with its economic power. And Germany is not going to stump up the money unless it has a big say on how it is spent. So we've got this mess.

The other point to remember when people talk of the "EU" is that many of its leading politicians are not true believers in "European values". They are opportunists. This applies to Orban and other prime ministers and presidents as well as the EU presidents Von der Leyen and Metsola. These people are self-serving in many ways to different extents. So, consensus is hard earned if not, in actuality, largely impossible on some issues.

The upshot of this mess is that countries have to think long and hard if they want to expand the Union to include even more new countries who will have vetoes like Orban. This is why the idea of admitting Ukraine is far more difficult than many want to believe.

 

[NilSatisOptimum]

Have we all concluded Putin has basically won and continues Russia push for USSR borders in all its pomp?

 

[Spadge Vernacular]

Have we all concluded Putin has basically won and continues Russia push for USSR borders in all its pomp?

It'll be more of a pause, possible defence, till the next tranche of funding is agreed and released.

If you remember last winter saw a slow down due to the weather, aside from Russia attacking civilian infrastructure, electic, water and gas trying to break the populations will. Fortunately their air defences are in a much better shape now.

 

[Spadge Vernacular]

Worth putting this here due to the strategic importance a Russian victory would pose to the global order.

 

[davek]

Reuters reports that the vast majority of Ukrainians would not support the sacking of Valerii Zaluzhnyi from his position as head of the armed forces, a poll conducted by the Kyiv International Institute of Sociology (KIIS) showed on Wednesday.

Despite attempts to demonstrate unity during the war with Russia, signs of friction between Zaluzhnyi and President Volodymyr Zelenskiy have been evident for weeks, spurring domestic media speculation that the army chief could be fired.

KIIS found that only 2% of Ukrainians would actively support Zelenskiy removing Zaluzhnyi from his post, while 72% would view such a move “negatively”. The polsters surveyed 1,200 people living around Ukrainian-controlled territory on Dec. 4-10.

The public’s trust in Zaluzhnyi stood at 92%, the poll found, compared with 77% of people who trust Zelenskiy.

 

[Spadge Vernacular]

Reuters reports that the vast majority of Ukrainians would not support the sacking of Valerii Zaluzhnyi from his position as head of the armed forces, a poll conducted by the Kyiv International Institute of Sociology (KIIS) showed on Wednesday.

Despite attempts to demonstrate unity during the war with Russia, signs of friction between Zaluzhnyi and President Volodymyr Zelenskiy have been evident for weeks, spurring domestic media speculation that the army chief could be fired.

KIIS found that only 2% of Ukrainians would actively support Zelenskiy removing Zaluzhnyi from his post, while 72% would view such a move “negatively”. The polsters surveyed 1,200 people living around Ukrainian-controlled territory on Dec. 4-10.

The public’s trust in Zaluzhnyi stood at 92%, the poll found, compared with 77% of people who trust Zelenskiy.

Thanks mate, I feel better now.

 

[Goat]

Reuters reports that the vast majority of Ukrainians would not support the sacking of Valerii Zaluzhnyi from his position as head of the armed forces, a poll conducted by the Kyiv International Institute of Sociology (KIIS) showed on Wednesday.

Despite attempts to demonstrate unity during the war with Russia, signs of friction between Zaluzhnyi and President Volodymyr Zelenskiy have been evident for weeks, spurring domestic media speculation that the army chief could be fired.

KIIS found that only 2% of Ukrainians would actively support Zelenskiy removing Zaluzhnyi from his post, while 72% would view such a move “negatively”. The polsters surveyed 1,200 people living around Ukrainian-controlled territory on Dec. 4-10.

The public’s trust in Zaluzhnyi stood at 92%, the poll found, compared with 77% of people who trust Zelenskiy.

Another BS report from the war porn Guardian.



It's been done since 2020 but now it's all about the Ukrainian War.

The muesli-eating war mongers. No credibility since MI6 made them smash their own hard drives on the floor of their own offices.

 

[Goat]

Kremlin says Ukraine pulled out of 2022 peace talks 'at Britain's insistence'
The Kremlin has said there is no current basis for talks between Russia and Ukraine as none of the prerequisites are in place, Reuters reports.

The Kremlin spokesperson, Dmitry Peskov, said Ukraine withdrew from the negotiation process in 2022 “at Britain’s insistence” and the UK “forbade” negotiations with Russia.

Ukraine says peace can only based on a full Russian withdrawal from all the territory it has seized since the war began in February 2022.

 

[Rita_Poon]

No credibility since MI6 made them smash their own hard drives

Bloody Starmer's record on recycling is just the pits!

 

[Drico]

Worth putting this here due to the strategic importance a Russian victory would pose to the global order.

That's America's "problem" then. After the way they allowed the Israelis to massacre civilians in Gaza, they can "fight" that one on their own.

 

[Rita_Poon]

That's America's "problem" then. After the way they allowed the Israelis to massacre civilians in Gaza, they can "fight" that one on their own.

This little issue is why the US and the UK cut France out of the plan to kit the Aussies out with nuclear subs. There's a bigger game of vigilance and threat playing out in the Pacific. Delivery vs north korea vs Taiwan vs the russian invasion. Let's see how the trained up pilots and updated aircraft 'fly' come the Spring, if winter lets the russians bunker up but the Ukrainians have bunker busters in a few months, the so called 'meat grinder' will expand. It'll end up a battle for aerial defence, and suddenly all drones will be focused there.

 

[Spadge Vernacular]

That's America's "problem" then. After the way they allowed the Israelis to massacre civilians in Gaza, they can "fight" that one on their own.

It's a regional issue with many stakeholders opposed to china's imperialism and neo-colonaliasm. The US will have support. Its partially why Russia must neither defeated.

 

[Spadge Vernacular]

This little issue is why the US and the UK cut France out of the plan to kit the Aussies out with nuclear subs. There's a bigger game of vigilance and threat playing out in the Pacific. Delivery vs north korea vs Taiwan vs the russian invasion. Let's see how the trained up pilots and updated aircraft 'fly' come the Spring, if winter lets the russians bunker up but the Ukrainians have bunker busters in a few months, the so called 'meat grinder' will expand. It'll end up a battle for aerial defence, and suddenly all drones will be focused there.

Spot on, China are creating a maritime and border time bomb with many pissd at their aggressive expansionist plans.

 

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