Current Affairs Ukraine

[Mutzo Nutzo]

Two sides to every story?

What you have to remember is that Ukraine launches storm shadow attacks along with MALDS (cheap programmable decoys) that look and act like storm shadows. That’s probably what Russia shot down.

Here’s proof that a storm shadow got through - gave you got any proof showing the 8 shot down missiles? If so I would expect to see photos of intact warheads lying in fields

 

[larrygobfiend]

Do you support Ukraine’s right to exist?

Genuine question.

Now that you’re back online @ramacca, please can you answer this simple question.

 

[ramacca]

What you have to remember is that Ukraine launches storm shadow attacks along with MALDS (cheap programmable decoys) that look and act like storm shadows. That’s probably what Russia shot down.

Here’s proof that a storm shadow got through - gave you got any proof showing the 8 shot down missiles? If so I would expect to see photos of intact warheads lying in fields

All that photo shows is air defences in action. It doesn't show where anything landed. There's no proof whatsoever. But as you know, air defence missile that do not hit a missile will land somewhere.

 

[Mutzo Nutzo]

Russian propaganda machine in overdrive regarding the attack on Crimea…I wonder why?

 

[Mutzo Nutzo]

All that photo shows is air defences in action. It doesn't show where anything landed. There's no proof whatsoever. But as you know, air defence missile that do not hit a missile will land somewhere.

It shows a cruise missile on an unimpeded ballistic trajectory and you hear the impact.

Works for me

You also see the vape trails of the SAMS chasing the decoys

 

[ramacca]

Russian propaganda machine in overdrive regarding the attack on Crimea…I wonder why?

We've been through this before about air defence missiles not hitting an incoming missile.

 

[larrygobfiend]

We've been through this before about air defence missiles not hitting an incoming missile.

Answer my simple question please

 

[ramacca]

It shows a cruise missile on an unimpeded ballistic trajectory and you hear the impact.

Works for me

What impact is that? On the ground or an air defence missile being hit?

Anything works for you to back up your claim that the Russian military is crap, can't fight, has garbage araments and air defences, it's air force is crap etc.etc. from day one. So how come Russian forces are winning and NATO trained and supplied Ukraine are losing?

 

[Mutzo Nutzo]

We've been through this before about air defence missiles not hitting an incoming missile.

If you check the video and look at the main missile in the picture on a ballistic arc - that’s a cruise missile.

A SAM would be travelling a lot faster than that. Cruise missiles are slow in comparison to SAMS.

 

[ramacca]

It shows a cruise missile on an unimpeded ballistic trajectory and you hear the impact.

Works for me

What impact is that? On the ground or an air defence missile being hit?

Anything works for you to back up your claim that the Russian military is crap, can't fight, has garbage araments and air defences, it's air force is crap etc.etc. from day one. So how come Russian forces are winning and NATO trained and supplied Ukraine are losing.

Turkey knows a thing or two about air defence systems and which are the best.

The Ukraine military would be better employed concentrating on getting their troops out of Avdiivka.

 

[Mutzo Nutzo]

What impact is that? On the ground or an air defence missile being hit?

Anything works for you to back up your claim that the Russian military is crap, can't fight, has garbage araments and air defences, it's air force is crap etc.etc. from day one. So how come Russian forces are winning and NATO trained and supplied Ukraine are losing?

Yawn - jog on lad. Do us all a favour and buy yourself a one-way ticket to Russia. See how far free speech gets you there.

 

[ramacca]

Yawn - jog on lad. Do us all a favour and buy yourself a one-way ticket to Russia. See how far free speech gets you there.

Mate, you have some knowledge of missiles and other things and well done for that. But to view a military as crap in all its aspects undermines the knowledge you've compiled.

 

[larrygobfiend]

So judging by his silence @ramacca doesn’t believe Ukraine has a right to exist.

The same guy believes Palestine does have a right to exist and is highly critical of the Israeli government.

How can you have it both ways? I genuinely don’t understand it.

 

[Mutzo Nutzo]

Mate, you have some knowledge of missiles and other things and well done for that. But to view a military as crap in all its aspects undermines the knowledge you've compiled.

Nope I just counter the Rus propaganda that gets pumped out every time they get whacked.

The Sovs used to be pretty good at this kinda stuff - but now it’s just crap that’s spouted now.

 

[Martin Alvito]

Nope I just counter the Rus propaganda that gets pumped out every time they get whacked.

The Sovs used to be pretty good at this kinda stuff - but now it’s just crap that’s spouted now.

Yeah, everyone that dealt with the Soviets recognized they were absolute artists when it came to propaganda. They didn't like it, but they had to respect it.

One positive effect of the 24-hour news cycle is that countries just can't keep up with the volume of quality propaganda content they have to produce.