Current Affairs Ukraine

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Putin, the most corrupt and evil leader on the planet has destroyed Russian hope over the last two decades. He will be remembered in history alongside demons such as Hitler and Stallin.



The sooner this creature is sent back to hell the better.
 
I never mentioned NATO???

And as for Polish support for Ukraine - you obviously didn’t read my earlier post. You see that’s the problem, honest debate requires participants to comprehend the other persons POV and respond accordingly.

You never do that - you simply continue to push out your own diatribe. So just to make you aware this is the kind of support that Poland is providing STILL to Ukraine and will continue to do so

Poland still provides the logistics hubs for weapons and material flowing into Ukraine.

Poland still maintains the armour repair facilities for Ukraine

Poland still hosts the drone manufacturing sites for Ukraine

Poland still provides medical and rehabilitation support for injured Ukranians

Poland still hosts around 1.5million Ukranian refugees

I believe Poland has recently said that they will provide everything that has been promised……
 
...and the Ukrainian regime pays them back by taking the piss.

As said: this Ukrainian leadership are a disaster. Diplomatically they're like a bull in a china shop. They're really not fit for office and should be replaced in March via the scheduled 2024 elections in Ukraine - but they'll be cancelled by Zelensky under martial law...and the cowed Ukrainian media will provide no backlash for that as they've been neutered.

You should back Ukraine but you should never give people like Zelensky any support. He and his regime are very much open for criticism and condemnation.

that last bit is daft dave, you can’t say he should never be supported- they can be criticised, but then can be supported too
 
thats sounds like a statement of final settlement to me.....
Here’s the unedited - untwisted version of the statement provided by Mateus Morawiecki

Translated from Polish



I see that the manipulation of the statement
begins, and yet both fragments can be directly quoted:
"We will certainly not risk Ukraine's security, which is why our hub in Rzeszów, in consultation with the Americans and NATO, continues to play the same role as it did. And it will continue to do so."

Nothing more needs to be added here. Supplies of materials for the defense of Ukraine have been, are and will continue.

However, the second fragment manipulated in the message:
"We are no longer transferring any weapons to Ukraine because we are now arming ourselves

with the most modern weapons. If you don't want to defend yourself, you must have SOMETHING to defend yourself - this is our principle. And that's why we have made increased orders (...) - we focus on quickly arming the Polish army."

Of course, the statement is taken out of context and manipulated, but this is the truth: while other large NATO countries give equipment from arms depots after disbanded units, Poland is the only country with numerous land forces that donated equipment taken from the lines. Taken from Polish soldiers from line units. The Germans are giving museum equipment - Leopard 1A5s, which even the Ukrainians did not want to accept. We are giving Leopard 2s that we are taking from the line in 10BKPanc, we are giving a battalion of Wolverines that we are taking from 17WBZ, we have given and are still giving "Twarde" PT-91s taken from the lines in Braniewo and Giżycko.

More than 270 T72M1/M1Rs donated to Ukraine were tanks freshly renovated from frontline units of the Polish Armed Forces.

In 2019, Poland nominally had 861 tanks. We donated approximately 350 of these to Ukraine.
No one has given more than us in relation to the armed forces. Artillery?

By spring 2022, the Polish Armed Forces received approximately 82 Krab AHS. 54.65% went to Ukraine! I ignore deliveries from this year. There are many such examples. No one gave as much as Poland and as quickly as Poland. We simply don't have anything to give anymore. Because we have already taken it from a Polish soldier to give it to a Ukrainian one.
We temporarily weakened the Polish Armed Forces, but thanks to the fact that equipment from Poland saved Ukraine, our security per se increased - by stopping Russian imperialism on the battlefield and by bleeding the Russian Armed Forces. In return, we buy new equipment, but these purchases - due to the need - are not optimal - we buy them on different terms because we have no choice. And the equipment is just arriving. We will close the gap for approximately 30-40% of the Land Forces by at least 2027-2028.
 
Imagine supporting and not calling out the rape and torture of children. Jimmy Savile would have been a supporter of Russia and its Orc army. A reminder of what Ukraine is having to deal with.

Russian troops raped and tortured children in Ukraine, U.N. panel says​

The findings by the United Nations experts are the latest allegations of war crimes against Russia since its invasion of Ukraine.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/...ured-children-ukraine-un-panel-says-rcna49168
 
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