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All politics are local, next mo ths elections are certainly part of it.
Grain spat drags Ukraine's ties with ally Poland to lowest point since start of Russian invasion
A dispute about whether Ukrainian grain should be allowed to enter the domestic markets of Poland and other European Union countries has pushed the tight relationship between Kyiv and Warsaw to its lowest point since Russia invaded Ukraine last year.
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When it comes to the crunch Poland will continue supporting Ukraine.
tsubaki
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Good piece in Harpers about Zelensky...in particular it asks whether he's the right man to build the peace.
The Tragedy of Volodymyr Zelensky, by Michael C. Desch
Beyond the Ukrainian president’s finest hourharpers.org
Is Volodymyr Zelensky the right leader to settle this conflict? Here the comparison to Churchill may once again be apt, though not in a way that reflects well on Zelensky. Churchill’s Conservative Party was voted out of power in July 1945, two months after the end of fighting in Europe and before the surrender in the Pacific. Churchill seemed out of touch with British voters, who were disturbed by his distaste for social reform after six years of war. Zelensky has at times, like Churchill, become a hero outside of his country while his standing is diminishing at home. Where he once merely kowtowed to the far right during the Minsk process, he now seems to be embracing some of its leading figures, like the Azov commander Denys Prokopenko. And while it is not uncommon during wartime for democracies to restrict the press, the Zelensky Administration is doing so to such an extent that some claim journalism in the country has devolved into a “marathon of propaganda.” According to the Financial Times, Ukrainians are “already debating whether their leader, like his illustrious British predecessor, may be the right man for a war of national survival but the wrong one for the peace that follows.”
Reflecting on Poroshenko’s lack of enthusiasm for the Minsk framework, The Economist suggested that Zelensky’s predecessor came to see the Donbas conflict as a diversionary war, removing the pressure for domestic reforms. The nightmare scenario is that Zelensky will similarly recognize the frustration of his domestic agenda and find, like many other wartime leaders before him, that the only thing harder than conducting a war is governing in peace. Indeed, given the likelihood of a prolonged military stalemate between Ukraine and Russia—and the fact that, the longer the war drags on, the longer elections can be delayed under martial law—Zelensky may feel less pressure to consider diplomatic measures than he did in the early days of the conflict. Perhaps Zelensky’s biggest moral failure will prove to be prolonging a war that in a year or two won’t look any different on the ground, save for much larger cemeteries on both sides.
There’s an awful lot of statements masquerading as wisdom in that article. Churchill wasn’t kicked out in 1945; the Tories were and if he’d not been PL they’d probably have been destroyed utterly.
tsubaki
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All politics are local, next mo ths elections are certainly part of it.
Grain spat drags Ukraine's ties with ally Poland to lowest point since start of Russian invasion
A dispute about whether Ukrainian grain should be allowed to enter the domestic markets of Poland and other European Union countries has pushed the tight relationship between Kyiv and Warsaw to its lowest point since Russia invaded Ukraine last year.
When it comes to the crunch Poland will continue supporting Ukraine.
They’ll continue supporting them, but once the ex-Soviet and derivative stuff has run out the support is going to be of a different kind.
And F16s
He really doesn`t like Zelensky does he, but Vlad gets a free pass, I wonder why that it is ?
I always imagined Dave`s missus, to look a bit more like Eva Braun tbh.
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He might have been popular, but he and his Tory party were swiftly removed from power at the first chance.
Also, I can only go on what I heard from people of my nan's generation from going on 30 or so years ago, and Churchill was not that popular with them even though they had a level of respect for him because of the war.
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The way @davek is clearly wetting his knickers with some weird crush on Putin I suspect the person typing might be a little girl.
She won't like this
Spadge Vernacular
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This is going to be the kind of transition to accelerate the move to Lada's
I never mentioned NATO???
And as for Polish support for Ukraine - you obviously didn’t read my earlier post. You see that’s the problem, honest debate requires participants to comprehend the other persons POV and respond accordingly.
You never do that - you simply continue to push out your own diatribe. So just to make you aware this is the kind of support that Poland is providing STILL to Ukraine and will continue to do so
Poland still provides the logistics hubs for weapons and material flowing into Ukraine.
Poland still maintains the armour repair facilities for Ukraine
Poland still hosts the drone manufacturing sites for Ukraine
Poland still provides medical and rehabilitation support for injured Ukranians
Poland still hosts around 1.5million Ukranian refugees
Spadge Vernacular
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davek
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What we're seeing here is the US presidential race starting to kick in. This war will be one of the biggest issues Republican and Democrat candidates deal with and there'll be a lot of holding back of support for Ukraine until its done.
www.theguardian.com
Zelenskiy faces difficult conversations in Washington amid Congress spending battle
Republicans propose stopgap funding bill that does not include funding for Ukraine as both parties signal they have questions for Ukraine delegation
davek
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...and the Ukrainian regime pays them back by taking the piss.
As said: this Ukrainian leadership are a disaster. Diplomatically they're like a bull in a china shop. They're really not fit for office and should be replaced in March via the scheduled 2024 elections in Ukraine - but they'll be cancelled by Zelensky under martial law...and the cowed Ukrainian media will provide no backlash for that as they've been neutered.
You should back Ukraine but you should never give people like Zelensky any support. He and his regime are very much open for criticism and condemnation.
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