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If I was trying to pretend someone was killed in an airplane crash I would come out and say his DNA was found in the wreckage...so not sure the news makes a lot of difference really.

Mind you it's not like the Russians ever lie...
I think I read yesterday that they found the planes black boxes. I bet they did as they were probably sitting in a storage warehouse for years waiting for the opportune moment to be used
 
If I was trying to pretend someone was killed in an airplane crash I would come out and say his DNA was found in the wreckage...so not sure the news makes a lot of difference really.

Mind you it's not like the Russians ever lie...
I'm not sure what the point would be of trying to fake Prigozhin's death? They couldn't hide his existence from the West even if they tried, so it could only be for domestic purposes, and even then I don't see the benefit to the regime.
 
I'm not sure what the point would be of trying to fake Prigozhin's death? They couldn't hide his existence from the West even if they tried, so it could only be for domestic purposes, and even then I don't see the benefit to the regime.

Most likely not and he did die, but there is a minute chance that because Prigozhin didn't get punished it could have weakened Putin's image and therefore a fake death was put in place to quell any of those noises. That would have to mean Putin would honour a friendship which would be unlikely.

All I'm saying is that statement is about as much use as a chocolate Tea pot to us. Might be true, might not be.
 
I'm not sure what the point would be of trying to fake Prigozhin's death? They couldn't hide his existence from the West even if they tried, so it could only be for domestic purposes, and even then I don't see the benefit to the regime.

They could easily hide his existence from the West
 
They could easily hide his existence from the West
If they literally locked him away and prevented him from having any interaction with the outside world, maybe. The bigger question is why they'd even do that, or why they'd go to the trouble of staging a crash at all - far easier to simply make him 'vanish'.
 
Fair enough. Your rebuttal has merit but Mother Russia is weaker than it was a year ago and will continue to erode in the coming years if they continue this outdated Special Operation. Economics will have the ultimate say anyway. Will the West blink first we will see as this has become bigger than Ukraine.
Much will depend on the result of the next US election .
 
Kev seriously now. When the F-16 appear this won’t bode well for the occupation of Crimea. Also, it will put more Russian aviation at risk. They can’t build enough if they don’t have western parts we all know this and the black market and China will have to be utilized. Logistics take time to change. Remember the blackmailing Countries relying on their energy needs it didn’t work out like Oligarchs expected. Now they are hunted by their leader and Western nations. Example look at the carnage in tanks it will take a decade to replace that fodder. Ukraine have just protected a land excursion on NATO. Expect more accidents deep in Russia on factories until this madness stops. Slowly this phase of the special operation could last years and years. Putin will hope to live that long to see its conclusion. Yet China grows stronger along with India Receiving ridiculous low prices for oil and gas. How many of Putin inner circle are safe? That’s the big question. Madness.
The F16 sadly is another promise to the Ukraine like the Leopard tanks that were supposed to punch through the Russian defense lines like a knife through butter that won't perform,this from US pilots...
"Going into combat against a Su-35, even a Su-27 in contested airspace — now you’re talking about years of experience. You can’t do that with a brand-new guy who has seen everything once! You can have all the capabilities of the jet, but if the pilot doesn’t know how to use it correctly, then that’s useless. So for a pilot coming from a MiG-29, having to learn a brand-new PVI [pilot-vehicle interface] where everything looks different, use weapons that they’ve only ever read about, to give them three-months training then toss them into combat — that’s a tall order!"
 
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