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[Papa Shango]

How is all looking lost when not one German set foot on our territory ?

Channel Islands.

 

[Toast]

Hmm what alternate/edgy view can i come up with today to make me feel clever

 

[Old Blue 2]

German occupation of the Channel Islands - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Aye, it didn't matter they sent some off to gas chambers either because they were Jews and undesirables. There was a list of people to exterminate from the UK.

Is correct. In a document prepared by SS Dr. Six.

 

[Zatara]

Anyone thinking Trump is the answer to anything needs to have a quick look at what he actually did when in power.
He is a chancer pure and simple.
Saying that Biden is shocking .

Trump is an absolutely disgusting individual and wouldnt care 2 hoots about other countries

Biden is currently 0/2 in terms of military threat.

I dont think Trump would have done any worse...you cant do any worse.

Biden is something unpostable here.

Except to invade Taiwan at this moment the Chinese would have to attack the US navy thereby dragging America into a war regardless.

They dont need to touch the US navy...just go over/under them.

The US has no leader.

But the only alternative was trump who basically sucked China and Russia off and got us into this mess. I understand yiu don’t like Biden, but mate, it was him or trump ffs. Are you really a trumpite? I mean, really??

What? Youre blaming Trump for keeping the peace with China and Russia?

lol thats out there lol

And no, im not a trumpite whatever that is. I simply believe that having Trump is preferable to having this absolute non entity of a coward.

Mate, Afghan and Ukraine were both trump creations. He sucked putin off and allowed him to do what he wanted and he also agreed the pull out of Afghan, stop being a knob and ignoring these facts in order to continue your hate of liberalism

You probably need to read up on this.

Not sure you actually understand what youre on about.

 

[catcherintherye]

Precisely why sanctions wont work. London flooded with Russian money, Biden worried about the rise in gas prices. Germany worried about gas. You can go on. People dont care about war or death as long as it doesnt personally affect them or their career/finances

Anyone who doesnt think there will all sorts of opt outs is deluding themselves. We will here about some, but it will only be the tip of the iceberg.

 

[grandjoeblue]

Are there any negotiations that can take place? If Ukraine signed something which stops them joining NATO for say 25 years would that even be enough?

 

[Spadge Vernacular]

I'm sure you are, as am I, doesn't really change the point though.

Exactly, Russia is run by a mafia with tyrannical psychopath at the wheel.

 

[Death]

Are you going with your Benitez style posting with this mate?

Personally speaking, I would say that it is mental if you really do believe that America are the bad guys, like the Nazi's, and Russia the good guys? ?

You are probably right about the states previously invaded by Russia but liberated after the collapse of the Soviet empire. Non of the ones who have joined NATO had heard of the Collective Security Treaty Organization.

America and Russia are bad. I think its mental you are pro america they are raping the world. While policing. You agree and seem to like the policing.

I'll end it there cause you are right. I was trying to put humour in our despute cause I dont want any bad blood. But this is a serious situation. Benitez is all fun and games. And I wasn't being serious in that 'war'. This isn't.

 

[Alan Whittle]

The whole of Western Europe capitulated - why? Because they were occupied.

How could they possibly capitulate because they were occupied?
They didn’t “capitulate” until they were occupied. Before they were occupied most of them fought to defend their borders.
Btw Britain, Spain, Portugal and Ireland were in Western Europe last time I looked.

 

[Zatara]

Lol that yiu think trump would have gone to war with China

Ive not said that.

Ive also not said Biden should "go to war" with Russia.

jesus christ.

Hindsight was your argument, now, not under any circumstance followed by an utter bollocks conclusion drawn from under some rock or orifice while ignoring factual history.

I prefer your assessments of 3rd division Thai football.

No. I was told that Biden was better than Trump.

I replied that now with hindsight that is false.

It seems like people who support this non entity and coward of a president like to twist words...

 

[devogue]

Biden is currently 0/2 in terms of military threat.

I dont think Trump would have done any worse...you cant do any worse.

Biden is something unpostable here.




They dont need to touch the US navy...just go over/under them.

The US has no leader.




What? Youre blaming Trump for keeping the peace with China and Russia?

lol thats out there lol

And no, im not a trumpite whatever that is. I simply believe that having Trump is preferable to having this absolute non entity of a coward.



You probably need to read up on this.

Not sure you actually understand what youre on about.

Not sure that would work tbh, the US has submarines there as well + the Navy has aircraft

 

[tsubaki]

Are there any negotiations that can take place? If Ukraine signed something which stops them joining NATO for say 25 years would that even be enough?

No, because this isn’t about NATO (despite bleating to the contrary).

Any situation where Ukraine is a democratic, free, prosperous and successful state is a threat to its non-democratic neighbours.

 

[Zatara]

“I went in yesterday and there was a television screen, and I said, ‘This is genius,’ ” Trump continued. “Putin declares a big portion of the Ukraine — of Ukraine. Putin declares it as independent. Oh, that’s wonderful. So, Putin is now saying, ‘It’s independent,’ a large section of Ukraine. I said, ‘How smart is that?’ And he’s gonna go in and be a peacekeeper. That’s strongest peace force … We could use that on our southern border.

He continued to praise Putin a bit later.
“Here’s a guy that says, you know, ‘I’m gonna declare a big portion of Ukraine independent’ — he used the word ‘independent’ — ‘and we’re gonna go out and we’re gonna go in and we’re gonna help keep peace,’ ” Trump said. “You gotta say that’s pretty savvy. And you know what the response was from Biden? There was no response.

Not sure why youre copying and pasting.

Trump is totally spot on there.

Putin goes in...no sanctions...no assistance.

Coward Biden and Italy, Germany and Hungray all afraid to post sanctions.

Putin must be laughing his nuts off.

 

[Zatara]

Not sure that would work tbh, the US has submarines there as well + the Navy has aircraft

Yes...?

The US wont lift a finger.

 

[BlueTX]

Ive not said that.

Ive also not said Biden should "go to war" with Russia.

jesus christ.



No. I was told that Biden was better than Trump.

I replied that now with hindsight that is false.

It seems like people who support this non entity and coward of a president like to twist words...

No, it was written you would have voted for Trump and there was an expression of surprise. You then brought up hindsight. No twisting of words by anyone other than you in trying to backtrack.

It's also been a mind-boggling revision or a shocking ignorance regarding the facts of Trump's actions toward Russia, Ukraine and China. Cultish, really.

That said, plenty of folks who voted for Biden have expressed at least some level of disappointment.