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Gonna hit the Russian defensive line pretty soon. Thats if they dont desert it first.
tsubaki
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That is a really daft statement to make, as if its possible to have a neat by-the-rules war - with the rules imposed by the side that enjoys immense military superiority - so anyone who goes beyond that belongs in a cell.
Blair and Bush should have gone to the Hague for Iraq. Yes, they didn't Groznyify it (Fallujah came close mind) but that decision to invade without authority caused tens of billions of damage to Iraq, killed directly and indirectly at least half a million people and massively destabilized the region (including many of our allies) from that point to this. They also cost us tens / hundreds of billions of dollars, the lives of thousands of our service personnel (UK and US) and all of it was run incompetently.
What they did is also the single biggest justification that the Russians have with the rest of the world right now; that if one side can basically bin off the system that has protected most of the world since 1945 without consequences then others should be able to do that as well.
If we want to prove we are after a fairer, more just world and to start to repair the damage they did then putting handcuffs on Blair would be a great help.
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It's so daft it's true!
tsubaki
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No, it isn't.
Any leader who starts a war without the necessary justification should suffer the legal consequences of that decision. That you only kill a few innocents and military types rather than loads of civilians shouldn't be of much relevance.
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Amazing whataboutery, my point was and is IF they had done what Putin has done they would have been tried. There is a clear distinction between the two and it's not like the country from which they came from is the key for being put on trial or not.
The mechanics of the rest of the argument you are trying to make doesn't come into it. If you want to discuss that, in hindsight the war was clearly wrong, should they have been tried for it...maybe. One thing I don't remember for Russia's war with Ukraine was a load of broken UN security resolutions, backing Russia with general consensus that something had to be done about the Ukrainian leader. That whether you or I or anyone else likes it gave some credibility to the action, thus kept them from being arrested.
This bodes well if confirmed
Luhove is part of the well fortified part of the Russian defensive line.
Luhove is part of the well fortified part of the Russian defensive line.
Spadge Vernacular
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Tennessee Blue Mike
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Those pesky Ukrainian tractors
Spadge Vernacular
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It seems the suggestion that one of the leopards they claim to have destroyed was a wooden mock up. There's a video of it doing the rounds.
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