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[BNJ1878]

So, it was the nerds.

Pentagon leak traced to video game chat group users arguing over war in Ukraine

Analysis suggests top-secret documents were first shared on closed gamer chatrooms hosted by Discord

www.theguardian.com

 

[Mutzo Nutzo]

So, it was the nerds.

Pentagon leak traced to video game chat group users arguing over war in Ukraine

Analysis suggests top-secret documents were first shared on closed gamer chatrooms hosted by Discord

www.theguardian.com

It does feel like dad (who works in the pentagon) took home his secret docs to do some work. His kid gets hold of them, photographs them then uploads them to a discord server to show off to his on-line nerd mates.

 

[EFCthechosenone]

The Russian Ministry of Defense (MoD) and Wagner Group financier Yevgeny Prigozhin acknowledged each other's roles in the Bakhmut effort on April 11. The Russian MoD and Prigozhin claimed that Wagner fighters comprise the main effort to take territory and push Ukrainian forces in central Bakhmut, whereas unspecified Russian Airborne (VDV) elements comprise the supporting effort on Wagner’s flanks north and south of Bakhmut, including near Zalizhnyanske, Sakko i Vantsetti, and Mykolaivka.[6] The Russian VDV forces on the flanks likely aim only to hold the flanks rather than make any significant advances. This array of forces suggests that the Russian MoD intends to use the Wagner Group to capture Bakhmut while minimizing casualties among conventional Russian forces—supporting ISW’s prior assessments that the MoD seeks to use Wagner forces to capture Bakhmut then supplant them and take credit for the victory.[7] Prigozhin reiterated that Wagner forces are making gains within Bakhmut, however, claiming that Russian forces control 80 percent of Bakhmut due to Wagner advances.[8] Russian forces occupy at least 30.68 square kilometers (about the size of the Chicago O’Hare airport) or 76.5 percent of Bakhmut based on ISW's control of terrain assessment. However, this area increases to 34.5 square kilometers or 86.1 percent of Bakhmut when factoring in all Russian-claimed territory in Bakhmut, including contradictory claims.

 

[spectateur]

It does feel like dad (who works in the pentagon) took home his secret docs to do some work. His kid gets hold of them, photographs them then uploads them to a discord server to show off to his on-line nerd mates.

Let's hope it's just that.
But secret docs should never leave the office?

 

[Diogenes the Cynic]

The Russian Ministry of Defense (MoD) and Wagner Group financier Yevgeny Prigozhin acknowledged each other's roles in the Bakhmut effort on April 11. The Russian MoD and Prigozhin claimed that Wagner fighters comprise the main effort to take territory and push Ukrainian forces in central Bakhmut, whereas unspecified Russian Airborne (VDV) elements comprise the supporting effort on Wagner’s flanks north and south of Bakhmut, including near Zalizhnyanske, Sakko i Vantsetti, and Mykolaivka.[6] The Russian VDV forces on the flanks likely aim only to hold the flanks rather than make any significant advances. This array of forces suggests that the Russian MoD intends to use the Wagner Group to capture Bakhmut while minimizing casualties among conventional Russian forces—supporting ISW’s prior assessments that the MoD seeks to use Wagner forces to capture Bakhmut then supplant them and take credit for the victory.[7] Prigozhin reiterated that Wagner forces are making gains within Bakhmut, however, claiming that Russian forces control 80 percent of Bakhmut due to Wagner advances.[8] Russian forces occupy at least 30.68 square kilometers (about the size of the Chicago O’Hare airport) or 76.5 percent of Bakhmut based on ISW's control of terrain assessment. However, this area increases to 34.5 square kilometers or 86.1 percent of Bakhmut when factoring in all Russian-claimed territory in Bakhmut, including contradictory claims.

Genocidal orc recognises genocidal orc.

 

[Yarrgh]

Let's hope it's just that.
But secret docs should never leave the office?

Depends on your clearance. There are thorough protocols on how to store them securely when not in a secure facility. The no. 1 rule however is don't have a hard copy unless absolutely necessary and destroy when finished with them.

I appreciate that some documents aren't kept electronically but those are not leaving their place of access.

 

[EFCthechosenone]

 

[Cork Evertonian]

Horrible video going around social media of a Ukrainian soldier being beheaded while alive

Just when you think they aren't capable of sinking any lower. We're dealing with savages here, who in turn deserve to be treated as such.

 

[PhilM]

Let's hope it's just that.
But secret docs should never leave the office?

The US guidance may be different, but basing it on official-sensitive and secret guidance here, the answer is no apart from the caveat of registered movement.

There should be a 'no working' outside designated premises/circumstances rules, which will be provided in the guidance set out by the person who designed it.

This is usually defining the security container and measures that must be put in place. If a kid has just found them in the house and took pictures...

... well, they're in a deep pile of faeces because when they do leave secure premises it's the person's responsibility to make sure they remain secure at all times.

It's a bit like the time an MoD officer lost a laptop on a train full of secret information, and they got well and truly ruined because of it.

 

[Mr. White]

Just when you think they aren't capable of sinking any lower. We're dealing with savages here, who in turn deserve to be treated as such.

Just so long as only the individual savages, directly responsible for incidents such as this, are treated as they deserve to be...

The Ukrainians are also dealing with conscripts and professional soldiers who don't want to be there. Individuals who have surrendered or are captured should be treated with respect.

 

[Cork Evertonian]

Just so long as only the individual savages, directly responsible for incidents such as this, are treated as they deserve to be...

The Ukrainians are also dealing with conscripts and professional soldiers who don't want to be there. Individuals who have surrendered or are captured should be treated with respect.

Let them be treated with the same respect, that Russian forces afforded that poor surrendered/captured Ukranian soldier.

That poor Ukrainian soldier didn't want to be in this situation either. It's war mate. All sense of fair play goes right out the window.

 

[Mutzo Nutzo]

Let's hope it's just that.
But secret docs should never leave the office?

You’d be surprised what moves around. There are however strict protocols that cover the movement of secure materials whether they be documents, hard-drives, encryption / radio equipment and crypto key mat.

 

[PhilM]

Russia jamming U.S. smart bombs in Ukraine, leaked docs say

A separate technical problem, since fixed, had been causing the munitions to fail.

www.politico.com

 

[Glasshalffull]

Let them be treated with the same respect, that Russian forces afforded that poor surrendered/captured Ukranian soldier.

That poor Ukrainian soldier didn't want to be in this situation either. It's war mate. All sense of fair play goes right out the window.

The 'Russian forces' didn't behead that poor bloke, some monstrous individuals within those forces did. I don't care how badly those particular guys get treated if they ever get captured, but this incident shouldn't trigger a general carte blanche for the Ukrainian to mistreat any Russians they come across.

 

[peteblue]

I did chuckle when I saw the breakdown of supposed deployed SF by nation.

In the “leaked” report it states that there is 1 Dutch SF operator deployed in Ukraine!

1!!! He must be really, really hard. Wonder if it’s Chuck Van Der Norris.

The Amsterdaminator……..