Much more dense than other usual projectiles. DU is used both for ordnance as well as plate shielding. For ammo, more punch, more penetration.
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Got it, thanks. Is it still radioactive?
Yarrgh
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Very slightly. Also has toxicity associated with it.
They will be prohibited from use eventually. Given Russian and Chinese nuclear programmes, you'd think they have them. I read in the Guardian that Russia have allegedly used them in Ukraine - how true that is, I don't know. As soon as there is any chance they could use them against the western countries (who have certainly already used them) then it would be a time to mutually agree to get rid or limit their use.
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Milosevic finally stood trial at The Hague – and Vladimir Putin isn’t above the law either | Steve Crawshaw
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It effectively means that the U.K. supplied Challys with DU rounds will be able to kill high-end Russian tanks from ranges approaching 5KM with a single shot.
I’d guess that the Ukes have been supplied with a combination of APFSDS and DU anti-tank rounds and therefore the Uke tank crews will selectively use the DU rounds as and when they see fit.
I’d also wager that the Russians have used DU rounds on the battlefield before now in their attack heli’s and tank rounds. But difficult to confirm.
More stuff and bluster from a scared Russian regime
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Much more concerning than depleted uranium shells designed for use against tanks and armoured vehicles is the Russian strategy of targeting civilians. More so in targeting them with cluster and thermobaric bombs.
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Russia using cluster bombs to kill Ukrainian civilians, analysis suggests
Guardian research finds cluster munitions, widely banned across the world, used in populated areas
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https://ukranews.com/en/news/922698...-bakhmut-afu-will-soon-recapture-city-syrskyi
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Russian Missiles Batter Ukraine, but Bakhmut Offensive Seen Stalling
Russian drones attacked Ukrainian cities and missiles blasted an apartment block, but a months-long ground assault on the eastern town of Bakhmut could be stalling in the face of fierce resistance, according to Ukrainian and British military experts.
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Is it just propaganda that they caused birth defects etc in Iraq (genuine question, are the wider negative effects overstated)?
If there's a chance it does that sort of thing, its not the issue of using them against Russians, its the issue of using it on Ukrainian soil surely? that's the land and anyone in the area that would get poisoned on top of any Russia has used?
Yarrgh
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It's a good question. I think it's probably very difficult to tease out DU as the sole cause of the impact to people's health. I think eventually that they'll be removed from service and they'll be eventually forgotten about before anyone has to answer this very awkward question.
As you say, some poor Ukrainians will be getting another problem to deal with because of the Russian invasion.
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Wagner Group financier Yevgeny Prigozhin has softened his rhetoric towards the Russian Ministry of Defense (MoD) likely out of fear of completely losing his mercenary force in Bakhmut. Prigozhin emphasized his concerns about a possible Ukrainian counteroffensive in eastern Ukraine during a 23-minute interview on March 23.[1] Prigozhin claimed that Ukraine has 200,000 reserves concentrating to attack along the entire eastern frontline, into Belgorod Oblast, and in Bakhmut. Prigozhin also claimed that the Ukrainians currently have 80,000 troops in Bakhmut, Slovyansk, and Kostyantynivka to counterattack Bakhmut – a claim that former Russian officer Igor Girkin observed was dubious.[2] Prigozhin‘s exaggerated statements about the imminent threat to Russian forces are likely an attempt to secure more supplies and reinforcements from the Russian MoD to save his forces in Bakhmut. Prigozhin made several positive statements about the Russian MoD, even acknowledging that Russian MoD forces are fighting alongside Chechen units in Bilohorivka, Luhansk Oblast. Prigozhin also surprisingly promoted both Russian MoD-controlled volunteer recruitment efforts and recruitment into Wagner, instead of only advertising service with Wagner formations as he has usually done. Prigozhin expressed some generalized criticism of the Russian military bureaucracy – namely the defense industrial base (DIB) - but such criticisms echo the current state propaganda narrative. Prigozhin had been an avid critic of the Russian military command, and the softening of his rhetoric may indicate that he may be attempting to partially appease the Russian MoD to gain supplies or reinforcements for Wagner forces in Bakhmut.
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Watching the videos on Reddit of this new style of warfare is genuinely terrifying. It’s also a testament to how desensitised we’ve become, where it’s almost a spectator sport as you’re willing your favourite drone pilot on as he drops a thermobaric grenade in to a trench full of Ivans.
Nice one Vlad!
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I'm surprised it wasn't already available for NATO air surveillance.
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