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Spadge Vernacular
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Oh look, you're being you.
tsubaki
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Oh look, you're being you.
look at its posting history!
Twitter and social media has intentionally been flooded with so much misinformation that no one knows what’s really going on. It’s shameful
Yarrgh
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The first casualty of war is the truth.
tsubaki
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In this war we could do nothing better than making the second casualty of war every social media company.
Spadge Vernacular
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It is just forwarding a current narrative such as:
Analysis: Kremlin moves to rein in Russian mercenary boss Prigozhin
His private army is pushing hard to give Russia a battlefield win in Ukraine, but mounting evidence suggests the Kremlin has moved to curb what it sees as the excessive political clout of Yevgeny Prigozhin, founder of Russia's Wagner mercenary group.
www.reuters.com
Can Wagner head Prigozhin challenge Vladimir Putin? – DW – 02/19/2023
Yevgeny Prigozhin has admitted to leading the Wagner Group of mercenaries and a massive internet troll farm. But is he a threat to Russian President Vladimir Putin, or is he doing just what the Kremlin leader wants?
www.dw.com
Vladimir Putin pulls Wagner PMC out of Ukraine amid fears their boss holds too much power
According to reports, Vladimir Putin is pulling Wagner PMC out of Ukraine amid fears their boss holds too much power
euroweeklynews.com
spectateur
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Social merdia is becoming the Frankenstein of modern society.
Edit lol Typo, should be media of course but the error is appropriate.
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"I do not think, as some people do, that we must aim for a total defeat of Russia, attacking Russia on its own soil," Mr Macron told the paper Le Journal du Dimanche.
Who the hell has said they want to invade Russia? I love politicians that are giving a paranoid state a reason to think what they do...the world is run by imbeciles.
Who the hell has said they want to invade Russia? I love politicians that are giving a paranoid state a reason to think what they do...the world is run by imbeciles.
Apparently Russians grouped close to 500 planes and 300 attack helicopters close to border and according to some info they gonna start using aviation extensively in coming days (something they didn't to so far outside Su-25s).
Also they grouping large forces near Kharkiv (all this according to Ukraine Intelligence).
They will probably hit Kyiv badly as demonstration when Biden visit Poland in next few days.
Anyway, Putin speech is in 2 days and everyone waiting for 24th for big events (as 1 year anniversary).
Also they grouping large forces near Kharkiv (all this according to Ukraine Intelligence).
They will probably hit Kyiv badly as demonstration when Biden visit Poland in next few days.
Anyway, Putin speech is in 2 days and everyone waiting for 24th for big events (as 1 year anniversary).
tsubaki
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Loads of prominent cretins have been talking about breaking up Russia, about how it must be prevented from ever invading anywhere else etc etc. OFC many of those prominent cretins have a lot of history in boosting interventionism and regime change in other places already.
If there was one thing I wish Western leaders would stop doing is all this talk of defeating Russia; what they should say is that the war has to stop.
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Surely China wouldn't want to up its support for Russia and risk full-on sanctions?..
tsubaki
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Lets see what their peace plan is first - if its reasonable (or appears as such) then if "the US and its satellites" reject it one can well imagine they will start selling the Russians ammunition. They are close anyway and US pressure on either of them just pushes them further together in an attempt to stop that pressure.
From what their FM was doing over the weekend (speaking with the Italians, French and Germans about this plan) one can imagine that it might well be at least a good effort at looking reasonable; they want to split the EU from the US and that will be much easier to do if there is some way out that emerges but the Yank is stood in the way of it.
China and America conflict is probably inevitable, so yeah they will support Russians, they will not allow only real potential ally to collapse.
There was never much love between China and Russians (even during Soviet times), but "enemy of my enemy is my friend" type of alliance.
They will of course deny and pretend publicly otherwise.
America sanctioning China (and counter), it would devastate economy both here in Europe and America itself (at least in short term) and would be direct path to war, so its big step to take
tsubaki
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this is one of the big questions that Western governments must have agreed - what the red line actually is, and what the buildup should be.
I'd argue that Ukraine falling and the threat to / invasion of Taiwan shouldn't be a red line but they should be the point at which every state in the West is rapidly reformed into a form more capable of preparing for and then fighting a long war and serious work on decoupling happens.
Reform wouldn't just be of the military / economic spheres, it has to come in a complete change of the people ruling us (who often have no experience of anything useful), how we define citizenship and how our politics is run and funded.
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