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bluestevon
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Fighting then pulling back before being overrun is a pretty obvious strategy they are using now yes, out of necessity, again yes, is it effective, time will show.
Surrendering on mass, hmmm, given the fact Ukraine seem to film absolutely everything they can for mass media effect, we've seen very very little if these hordes of Russians they're capturing mate, a lot of Ua press releases on it though, so must be true.
Did see one video they released which was a BMP crew surrender which was an absolutely laughably staged fake though, but gullible people will buy stuff like that.
Reportage on the amount of POWs on each side very lopsided in terms of Ukrainians captured, I'm wondering again, why is that? Why do Russia have so many more Ua POWs than Ukraine does Russians which is proving a huge complication on pow trades?
I don’t speak Ukrainian so can’t look at the original broadcast but appears the “premeptive strikes” comment may have been lost in translation
www.politico.eu
Zelenskyy spoke Thursday via video link to the Sydney-based Lowy Institute, saying through an interpreter that to deter the use of nuclear weapons by Russia, NATO and the international community must take “preventive strikes,” before the interpreter corrected themself to say “preventive action.”
Ukraine says Zelenskyy’s ‘preventive strike’ call misinterpreted as Moscow fumes
Kyiv says president was referring to economic sanctions, while Russian officials accuse him of calling to ‘start a world war.’
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bluestevon
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If you're referring to this mate, Its not a round of mobilization cancelled, it's the annual draft for all 18yos to do military service that's been cancelled, and pretty sure it's because they've already been mobilised.
Zelensky canceled the autumn draft for military service and postponed demobilization
President Volodymyr Zelensky canceled the fall conscription for military service in 2022. This is due to the state of war in the country
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larrygobfiend
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You sound a bit more manic than usual. You getting a call up soon Steveski lad?
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I don’t speak Ukrainian so can’t look at the original broadcast but appears the “premeptive strikes” comment may have been lost in translation
Zelenskyy spoke Thursday via video link to the Sydney-based Lowy Institute, saying through an interpreter that to deter the use of nuclear weapons by Russia, NATO and the international community must take “preventive strikes,” before the interpreter corrected themself to say “preventive action.”Ukraine says Zelenskyy’s ‘preventive strike’ call misinterpreted as Moscow fumes
Kyiv says president was referring to economic sanctions, while Russian officials accuse him of calling to ‘start a world war.’
Good to hear that it could be a translation error, if not it raises question whether Ukraine should ever be let into NATO.
bluestevon
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Ofc mate, outside of two cities the rest of Russia resembles a Third world country.
True colours, what you on about, someone made a remark/dig I responded in kind.
I read that as he’s cancelled conscription and that those already mobilised will not be released.If you're referring to this mate, Its not a round of mobilization cancelled, it's the annual draft for all 18yos to do military service that's been cancelled, and pretty sure it's because they've already been mobilised.
Zelensky canceled the autumn draft for military service and postponed demobilization
President Volodymyr Zelensky canceled the fall conscription for military service in 2022. This is due to the state of war in the country
There’s nothing in there or any other article I’ve read that indicates people marked for the fall conscription have already been mobilised.
So the question still remains unanswered as to why he doesn’t require additional troops?
Tennessee Blue Mike
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Interesting, if not exactly cheerful, article.
bluestevon
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Nope mate, with the level of recruitment they've already done the conscripts for this fall will have already been called up in huge parts - a lot into the territorial defense units for starters. No government doing that level of mobilization including preventing anyone under 60 leaving is not utilizing the age demographic that armies love to get hold of (18-21) .
It also fails to tally with them still implementing the law preventing women leaving the country post the 11/10 and them having to register as reservists. Combined with the recent law change stopping those studying overseas leaving the country
Sceptic in me suggests if conscription went ahead it would reveal just how many of the young lads had already been mobilised when hardly anyone is is left to conscript - guessing a lot who had not yet turned 18 in February but where due to be called up are amongst the ones who left the country as well (pretty sure most mom's would be getting there 17,yo out the country whilst they could do).
Not true. They had vast reserves and sanctions have not properly taken hold yet. Give it a few months and you will see who is winning economically. There is a reason they are not paying their conscripts
bluestevon
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It's effectively a weapon circumnavigating the cluster munitions ban. Used in any urban area it's effectively a terror weapon
For this to be 'strategic' in any way, the retreat would be (as mentioned above) tactical, in that it would be done with cover and would not involve abandoning enormous amounts of important equipment. The word you are looking for is "Fleeing"
And you call others "gullible"
C'mon lads, stop the sniping at one another. I'm sure we all agree we'd prefer to see a lot less bloodshed and as peaceful a resolution to all of this as possible.
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