Tennessee Blue Mike
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Permission to speak Sir, Don't Panic! Don't Panic! Don't Panic!
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bluestevon
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Far from niave mate, I was simply responding to your comment that if the US pulled military support then Ukraine would not negotiate but would be backed militarily by Poland and the Baltic states. And I disagree they would as it's be going against the will of the US and all those countries are entirely dependant on the UK financially to a degree and militarily to a huge degree, why would they bite the hand that feeds them?
Russia and China: Partners in dedollarization
Russia has virtually stopped receiving Dollars for its exports to China. Does the US have reason to be concerned?www.atlanticcouncil.org
The US position on the Baltic states and Russia is clear and demostrated through actions such as what you are witnessing, even this.
Text - S.3950 - 117th Congress (2021-2022): Baltic Defense and Deterrence Act
Text for S.3950 - 117th Congress (2021-2022): Baltic Defense and Deterrence Actwww.congress.gov
Russia is a global problem, Putins Russia. A threat to Europe and also the US. Even in a world in which Putin managed to get a Manturian Candidate into the White House and see the US leave NATO (it could happen)
That's just pure democratic fear mongering at its height when trump won though really mate, in practice it's ludicrous to think they could, pure tin foil hat time really.
Us pulled out if NATO, then NATO would collapse and France and Germany likely form a new European coalition - who exactly they include is another matter though. Europe by and large is a continent of countries who actually don't really like their neighbours much st all as history shows, the poles hate the Germans and the Russians, until recently the Ukranians weren't exactly their favourites either, the french are disliked by most and hate the Brits and the Germans, the Germans don't like anyone much besides Austria the Greeks despuse the Turks and vice versa, everyone's wary about turkey, and the old eastern Europe is filled with countries with long held grudges against each other (see Yugoslavia for when it's left unchecked) and the Brits don't even wanna be part of Europe half the time
Nothing is off the table and there is zero chance that any threatened state will not be considering all options to protect its their safety, no matter how much this upsets you.
Ofc threatened states consider all options, but Poland isn't threatened except in its own estimation neither are the Baltics, article 5 almost guarantees such, but if they act outside of NATO then who knows if article 5 will apply or not.
And not sure why you think I'm at all upset for
bluestevon
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Know you're joking but the funny thing is that'd be the absolutely worst case scenario of anything that could happens in terms of the US as you'd immediately make China one of the leading energy producing nations on the planet to go with it's manufacturing, the uni polar world ended instantly.
PeregrineT
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I have no doubt mentally unstable Putin thinks he can just tell 300k more people to go die for him and solve his problems.
But Russia couldnt direct, support, or even feed the first 100k it sent before the economy was hit. Not a chance they can do that now or keep track of the 200k that will almost immediately just leave after a week of not being fed and not having armor or ammo.
But Russia couldnt direct, support, or even feed the first 100k it sent before the economy was hit. Not a chance they can do that now or keep track of the 200k that will almost immediately just leave after a week of not being fed and not having armor or ammo.
Tennessee Blue Mike
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That is the whole point. Out of the 300k how much will be devoted as support services? Not narry enough based on the recent trend.
Wait. I'm confused, I thought the Russians were 100% behind Pooty Poot and his war.
They are till they have to pick up a weapon.
Tennessee Blue Mike
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This is the other 10% making tracks.
Also seen some posts talking about some of the mass panic amongst people fearing themselves or loved ones are about to be called up. Some asking what loopholes they can use to get out of it.
Also tales of people being told they have “3 hours to pack” before being shipped off.
Not sure how reliable the info is though.
gianthogweed
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The year 2022 and some old communist fossil dreaming of the past now wants to send old men to their death like Hitler did in Berlin in 1945
Russia people need to wake up to this madness
Russia people need to wake up to this madness
Thing is - at some point in the not too distant future these conscripts who’ve been forced into service will be given weapons and ammo.It’ll be interesting to see what happens then when they’re told to go and fight.
Tennessee Blue Mike
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Agreed. The main point missed here is Russia isn't being invaded and yet conscripts are forced to fight. Maybe it's just me but this becomes a recipe for disaster.
Spadge Vernacular
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I get that you want to see the world and situation from a Russian position and wIth outcomes favourable to where you live but if any country feels threatened by Vlad, there is zero chance that they'd just bend over for him. Also, I'm not sure how the EU, going against the will of the US would be entrirely dependent upon the UK?
No it is not fear mongering, it is a strategy that has been in play for many years now. I get from your posts that you listen to your Russian wife and her elderly mother as sources of info. The things you have posted about their position reminds me of the Brexit situation here and an elderly generation and those who listened to them have a romantic view of the days of empire and Johhny Foreigner but was sadly not grounded in reality. Also that as you suggest that you are a school teacher, that the above would not be something that you should be expected to undestand, that's fine, but the situation is what it is.
Yes, as mention that situation would be fluid. The local enemy of Europe is as has been proven, Putins Russia. All of free Europe understands this and would/have positioned themselves accordingly.
They don't need to and most likely will not need to but as I say such situations are fluid. I feel extremely confident that NATO will not need to become actively involved or that Putin will be allowed to threaten anyone else. This will most likely be the end of him and his regime.
You have consistently been pro Putin when posting.
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