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Absolutely no time or respect for any poster defending a man who, among many other atrocities, is trying his hardest to drive America into full-on fascism.

TBF I am not sure that he is - a fascist US is even more of a threat to him (and especially his allies) than a democratic one; plus of course the facilitating / boosting of such types is something that Murdoch, Turtle-Man and the rest are far more guilty of. What he wants is a divided US, which again is something that the US RW want too (as they think its safer for them than running the country competently and earning support that way would be).
 
TBF I am not sure that he is - a fascist US is even more of a threat to him (and especially his allies) than a democratic one; plus of course the facilitating / boosting of such types is something that Murdoch, Turtle-Man and the rest are far more guilty of. What he wants is a divided US, which again is something that the US RW want too (as they think its safer for them than running the country competently and earning support that way would be).

Pretty much this I'd say.

Using the fascism thing as something Russia actually want is insanity and shows absolutely no understanding of 77 years on how the scars of WW2 and the memory run deep.
 
Some interesting stuff from our man on this subject.


And on the political landscape.


There is a clear trend and lots of posts in lots of threads supporting Putin, Russia and with an anti-western narrative from @bluestevon Even though the below quote is something of a light hearted comment the thrust follows the trend of its posts. ?

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I've never once said in the past I wasn't pro Putin mate, in fact pretty sure if you spend another couple of hours trawling through back posts you'll find me clearly stating years ago the opposite. Not because I support his politics at all - Putins right wing I'm the polar opposite of such, but because of the state the country was when he took over and the rebuilding to what it was up until January this year.

BUT things change - there's a clear red line under what's happened since February - and nope I don't support what happened in the slightest so very much anti the decisions made by Putin.

Am I calling for him to go, nope, why, because I understand what the likely consequence would be for the country I live in and where my family is from. It would almost certainly result in either an ultra right wing leader coming to power or on another Yeltsin which would be an unmitigated disaster for Russia.

Find it weird as hell though you think it's odd as per your comments that in the past I have often been pro Russian,I live here my family is from here - ofc I'd be Pro Russian in general - it's not rocket science to figure that out like

Anti west narrative - again I'll seperate the people from the leaders - and yup I'm anti the way a unipolar America acts without any consequences for it's actions and for supporting nations that 'have it's back' regardless. I hate double standards and the portrayal of a good west and a bad 'anyone not west'.

Am I anti the people if these countries - not at all - I am one.

I haven't got the time or will to go through all your back posts mate to see if you are ever critical of actions done by other countries, I'll save that for SherlockSpadge.
 
Time all and sundry were sanctioned not just those connected to regime, all Russians, unless evidently opposed to Putin, very obvious the general populace has brought into Putin's imperialistic ideology. Make them international lepers with travel and economics, they can go and school their kids in India and holiday in China instead of sending their prats to Eaton and sunbathing on a Costa.
 
I've never once said in the past I wasn't pro Putin mate, in fact pretty sure if you spend another couple of hours trawling through back posts you'll find me clearly stating years ago the opposite. Not because I support his politics at all - Putins right wing I'm the polar opposite of such, but because of the state the country was when he took over and the rebuilding to what it was up until January this year.

BUT things change - there's a clear red line under what's happened since February - and nope I don't support what happened in the slightest so very much anti the decisions made by Putin.

Am I calling for him to go, nope, why, because I understand what the likely consequence would be for the country I live in and where my family is from. It would almost certainly result in either an ultra right wing leader coming to power or on another Yeltsin which would be an unmitigated disaster for Russia.

Find it weird as hell though you think it's odd as per your comments that in the past I have often been pro Russian,I live here my family is from here - ofc I'd be Pro Russian in general - it's not rocket science to figure that out like

Anti west narrative - again I'll seperate the people from the leaders - and yup I'm anti the way a unipolar America acts without any consequences for it's actions and for supporting nations that 'have it's back' regardless. I hate double standards and the portrayal of a good west and a bad 'anyone not west'.

Am I anti the people if these countries - not at all - I am one.

I haven't got the time or will to go through all your back posts mate to see if you are ever critical of actions done by other countries, I'll save that for SherlockSpadge.


I didn't realise that you lived in Russia with your Russian family. I can understand if that is the case that it is safest for you to tow the Putin line as you'd risk being jailed or worse if not. I can only imagine what it must be like to live under an autocratic dictatorship.

I agree that Russia was in a state of change post the break up of the USSR but Putin turned Russia from a nascent democratic state into an autocratic one. He has been a hinderence to Russia since and a problem to neighbouring countries, Africa and the world generally. Hopefully once he is gone and political opposition party memebers that he has jailed terrorised into silence will be released from jail Russia can begin to build toward democracy again and away from the North Korean disneyland reality that Putin has created.

If you really have been sucked into his propoganda then I hope that one day you can break free of this, too. For now though you say that there is a red line for what Putin has done in invading Ukraine and that you do not support this yet you come on here and assault our eyeballs with your pro Putin nonsense.

I'd suggest that the consequences of Putin going will be nowhere near as bad as him staying. If he does stay I think the world will need to prepare for the break up of what remains of Russia. A big worry there would be the possibility of his henchmen selling off nukes on the black market.

Living in Russia does not mean being pro Putins Russia in the same way living in the UK doesn't mean being pro Boris Tory UK or the States pro Trump US. Nothing weird about calling bad and dangerous people out in your own country or abroad, IMO.

The anti-western narrative won't wash with any right minded person n this context. Not here in Salisbury, in Georgia, Chechnya, Syria, Ukrian etc.

Feel free to vault away if you want to continue your attempts to defelct from the Russian invasion of Ukraine, Comrade Stevo.
 
I've never once said in the past I wasn't pro Putin mate, in fact pretty sure if you spend another couple of hours trawling through back posts you'll find me clearly stating years ago the opposite. Not because I support his politics at all - Putins right wing I'm the polar opposite of such, but because of the state the country was when he took over and the rebuilding to what it was up until January this year.

BUT things change - there's a clear red line under what's happened since February - and nope I don't support what happened in the slightest so very much anti the decisions made by Putin.

Am I calling for him to go, nope, why, because I understand what the likely consequence would be for the country I live in and where my family is from. It would almost certainly result in either an ultra right wing leader coming to power or on another Yeltsin which would be an unmitigated disaster for Russia.

Find it weird as hell though you think it's odd as per your comments that in the past I have often been pro Russian,I live here my family is from here - ofc I'd be Pro Russian in general - it's not rocket science to figure that out like

Anti west narrative - again I'll seperate the people from the leaders - and yup I'm anti the way a unipolar America acts without any consequences for it's actions and for supporting nations that 'have it's back' regardless. I hate double standards and the portrayal of a good west and a bad 'anyone not west'.

Am I anti the people if these countries - not at all - I am one.

I haven't got the time or will to go through all your back posts mate to see if you are ever critical of actions done by other countries, I'll save that for SherlockSpadge.
It's really simple for so many of the posters on this thread,if you don't slavishly share the Western propaganda narrative you are by default a supporter of the invasion.
 
Latest updates from the southern front (Kherson Oblast). Russian forces on the North Bank of the Dnipro have fallen back 10Km to allow better support and protection from their artillery located on the south bank.

There continue to be reports of Russian forces negotiating surrender terms, however nothing confirmed yet.

One things for sure the Russian force north of the Dnipro are running out of ammo and supplies. If Ukraine can neutralise their artillery it will be curtains for the orcs.

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I've never once said in the past I wasn't pro Putin mate, in fact pretty sure if you spend another couple of hours trawling through back posts you'll find me clearly stating years ago the opposite. Not because I support his politics at all - Putins right wing I'm the polar opposite of such, but because of the state the country was when he took over and the rebuilding to what it was up until January this year.

BUT things change - there's a clear red line under what's happened since February - and nope I don't support what happened in the slightest so very much anti the decisions made by Putin.

Am I calling for him to go, nope, why, because I understand what the likely consequence would be for the country I live in and where my family is from. It would almost certainly result in either an ultra right wing leader coming to power or on another Yeltsin which would be an unmitigated disaster for Russia.

Find it weird as hell though you think it's odd as per your comments that in the past I have often been pro Russian,I live here my family is from here - ofc I'd be Pro Russian in general - it's not rocket science to figure that out like

Anti west narrative - again I'll seperate the people from the leaders - and yup I'm anti the way a unipolar America acts without any consequences for it's actions and for supporting nations that 'have it's back' regardless. I hate double standards and the portrayal of a good west and a bad 'anyone not west'.

Am I anti the people if these countries - not at all - I am one.

I haven't got the time or will to go through all your back posts mate to see if you are ever critical of actions done by other countries, I'll save that for SherlockSpadge.

Very insightful post.
 
I didn't realise that you lived in Russia with your Russian family. I can understand if that is the case that it is safest for you to tow the Putin line as you'd risk being jailed or worse if not. I can only imagine what it must be like to live under an autocratic dictatorship.

I agree that Russia was in a state of change post the break up of the USSR but Putin turned Russia from a nascent democratic state into an autocratic one. He has been a hinderence to Russia since and a problem to neighbouring countries, Africa and the world generally. Hopefully once he is gone and political opposition party memebers that he has jailed terrorised into silence will be released from jail Russia can begin to build toward democracy again and away from the North Korean disneyland reality that Putin has created.

If you really have been sucked into his propoganda then I hope that one day you can break free of this, too. For now though you say that there is a red line for what Putin has done in invading Ukraine and that you do not support this yet you come on here and assault our eyeballs with your pro Putin nonsense.

I'd suggest that the consequences of Putin going will be nowhere near as bad as him staying. If he does stay I think the world will need to prepare for the break up of what remains of Russia. A big worry there would be the possibility of his henchmen selling off nukes on the black market.

Living in Russia does not mean being pro Putins Russia in the same way living in the UK doesn't mean being pro Boris Tory UK or the States pro Trump US. Nothing weird about calling bad and dangerous people out in your own country or abroad, IMO.

The anti-western narrative won't wash with any right minded person n this context. Not here in Salisbury, in Georgia, Chechnya, Syria, Ukrian etc.

Feel free to vault away if you want to continue your attempts to defelct from the Russian invasion of Ukraine, Comrade Stevo.

Wow, you really do have absolutely no clue whatsoever do you lad.

A State of change
A nascent democracy.

You have any idea what actually happened under Yeltsin mate, those comments say you don't, have any idea what was the nascent democracy you speak of was - nope you don't plainly - that much is flipping obvious.

http://content.time.com/time/covers/0,16641,19960715,00.html

Yes mate that was Russian nascent democracy you speak of - front cover of time boasting openly about how the US decided who would be Russian president.

The man utterly detested by Russian people
 
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