bluestevon
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Regardless of any differences of opinion, thank you for that post mate.
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Snippets emerging that the RA have launched numerous cruise missies at key power infrastructure in the east alongside a major DoS attack.
They’re not going to leave without inflicting misery on the population.
They’re not going to leave without inflicting misery on the population.
Lots of chatter about atm of a possible Russian surrender in the south (Kherson Oblast). Also looks like the Russians are pulling out of Snihurivka across the Inhulets river. All unconfirmed thus far
I doubt any surrender, quite opposite, they doubling their efforts, apparently massive bombardment in process and good part of Ukraine is in total blackout in the moment, plus apparently internet disruption.
Also Medvedev (who playing role of Kremlin mad dog) is saying they gonna continue even harder.
Russia will not quit, they will need to be totally defeated for that, and if that gonna happen, it gonna last for years and in sea of blood for both sides.
Russians run away when faced with the Ukranian army and respond by destroying essential civilian infrastructure using missiles launched from ships in the Black Sea.
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Presumably officially the Russians will claim that is the Ukrainians who are attacking their own power stations or some other such nonsense
Russia Repeatedly Strikes Ukraine’s Civilians. There’s Always an Excuse.
The Kremlin’s explanations have sometimes satisfied the Russian people, but they fall apart under closer scrutiny abroad.
bluestevon
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If the Ukraine counter attack has been as successful as it's being reported, a very good likelihood it'll lead to a gloves off approach in response.
The massive media attention on this is comparison to other conflicts in recent or semi recent times AND unusually from the perspective of the invaded (very few are as it's traditionally the US/ West coalition doing so) has given the narrative of it being one where civilian casualties have been high (Data on casualties and % of those being civilians suggests strongly the opposite - the ratio of civilian to military deaths is actually very low compared to most conflicts in the past 50 years)
A change in approach on the Russian side where it becomes carte blanche could see this become absolutely horrendous in the coming weeks/months.
bluestevon
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Presumably officially the Russians will claim that is the Ukrainians who are attacking their own power stations or some other such nonsense
Russia Repeatedly Strikes Ukraine’s Civilians. There’s Always an Excuse.
The Kremlin’s explanations have sometimes satisfied the Russian people, but they fall apart under closer scrutiny abroad.www.nytimes.com
No LL this will be a marked change from the Russian tactics now, they'll start doing what they've already been accused off doing which is 'total' war.
Trust me, up to now - the Russian tactics have been minimizing where possible civilian losses (the nature of the SMO almost dictated it had to be that way) if this signals a policy shift then it will be very very brutal in comparison to what's been seen to date, thing is, in the west it's been portrayed that they've been doing their worst to target civilians/infrastructure already, I'm not sure how what 'could' be about to happen will go with that original narrative.
Hope I'm very very wrong on this as it will be horrific for Ukraine if I'm right
Disagree, think in general it was just pointing out the multiple instances where civilians/infrastructure was targeted, not that Russian military has being doing the worst they could.
If that is now to change then as you say it will be horrific for Ukraine and likely for Russian civilians too.
AndyC
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You’re kidding right?
There have been numerous, far too many, civilian ‘targets’ hit and unnecessary loss of civilian life.
How can you suggest the Russian tactics have been about minimising civilian losses ?
Spadge Vernacular
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Hun was a derogatory nickname used by the British during WW1 to describe the German Army.
Orcs is a term being primarily used by those in Ukraine to describe the Russian invafers. No difference.
You can do your deflecting moves again if you like, pointing to Palestine et al but as I say, for the lads from Ukraine posting on here who are the ones using the term it is absolutely in the same context as we Brits used against German aggressors.
No one is calling your wife or kids anything, unless they are part of the Russian invading army. If Russian troops don't want people calling them out then should fook off home and stop raping and mudering people.
As much as you might hate facing up to the truth, the fact is that the Russians are the ones in another country committing atrocities.
bluestevon
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Frontiers | Estimating the Number of Civilian Casualties in Modern Armed Conflicts–A Systematic Review
Objective:To examine the possibility of estimating the number of civilian casualties in modern armed conflicts.Methods:A systematic review was conducted foll...
www.frontiersin.org
Now explain to me why the ratio in Ukraine is so low, especially considering the vast majority of engagements have been in urban areas.
Please do explain mate, I'm interested to be hear the reasons why.
Spadge Vernacular
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Right, OK. Another appears ?
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