Current Affairs UK General Election July

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The Tory fanboys are getting feisty for sure.

But yeah, im probably gonna put these threads on ignore and come back in 5 weeks to celebrate the glorious victory.

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That's the glee he shows when he receives his fee for his S*n articles.

A man who's spat on the victims and families of the 97.
 
Hi mate, have you heard of the tory party?

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I think it is fair to say that we have two choices for government. The tory's or Labour. Take votes away from either and reduces their chances of success. Pipe dreams aside that is the choice the country faces.

I get that some people are clearly still very upset that Corbyn got annihilated but its done. If someone is of the mind that they'd like to see Starmer get a serious beating from Sunak then I'd question their ability to make rational choice. We face a world of challenges but right now the biggest is making sure that of the two parties in the race that the Tory's are not the victors in six weeks time. As let's be honest, as much as I'd like to see the tory's dismantled the GE is probably going to be a lot closer than the polls suggest.

Also, you do not know, you might be of the opinion but that is all it is.

At the risk of pointing out something that has already been said multiple times, the main issue with the current leadership faction of the Labour Party is not, however much you get off on claiming this, that they were anti-Corbyn. There were lots of people who were against Corbyn - my current MP was one of them - but what is the issue is how that faction behave when given a modicum of power and whether they have the competence to run the country effectively.

Since they've been in charge of Labour they have, fairly ruthlessly, purged anyone who they identify as an open enemy from the party (or representing the party) using their control of the disciplinary system - from Corbyn himself, to people like Sam Tarry and Jamie Driscoll and now (it seems) Diane Abbott but also hundreds of ordinary people as well. Local choice in terms of selecting candidates has been truncated or suspended entirely, and we are likely to see a whole swathe of that faction given safe seats according to reports (many of them are responsible for candidate selection in the first place). Of course this was something that was loudly complained about between 2015 and 2019, but seems no longer to be an issue for some reason nowadays.

Potential alternate focuses for leadership - Andy Burnham, Angela Rayner or especially Sadiq Khan - are fairly regularly briefed against in the press, too. In short they have the habit of using their own parties resources and opportunities for their own ends, not for the wider interest of the party never mind what the country needs.

Where they've been proved wrong on an issue - Gaza being the worst, but also things like ULEZ - they've pretended that they were right all along despite all the evidence of what they said previously. Often this has crossed the border into outright lies.

That is just how they've behaved internally - how London boroughs like Croydon or Lambeth, or across the country like Birmingham or Wrexham should be seen as exemplars of open corruption and/or incompetence and very few (if any) of the faction's members or supporters ever face internal or criminal sanction for that. This faction have already ruined and are ruining otherwise decent places at the cost of hundreds of millions of taxpayer pounds. Their record - which includes in Croydon's case hacking into journalists and stealing their data - should be something that people factor in when determining whether or not they should be trusted with all of our futures.

There is no point, indeed its very dangerous, to have a two choice election where both choices are bad. We've just had fourteen years of one shower, and thirteen years before that of another, of bad leadership.

What we the electorate need to do what the system demands that we do - vote for the best candidate to represent all of us in the constituency in Parliament. I would argue that any candidate imposed without a free and fair selection process, from whatever party you happen to support, is unlikely to be the best candidate to represent you. If they were, they generally would not need to be imposed. Labour are likely to impose many candidates, and so I would make damned sure I understood who it was they were asking for me to vote for before I actually did it.
 
At the risk of pointing out something that has already been said multiple times, the main issue with the current leadership faction of the Labour Party is not, however much you get off on claiming this, that they were anti-Corbyn. There were lots of people who were against Corbyn - my current MP was one of them - but what is the issue is how that faction behave when given a modicum of power and whether they have the competence to run the country effectively.

Since they've been in charge of Labour they have, fairly ruthlessly, purged anyone who they identify as an open enemy from the party (or representing the party) using their control of the disciplinary system - from Corbyn himself, to people like Sam Tarry and Jamie Driscoll and now (it seems) Diane Abbott but also hundreds of ordinary people as well. Local choice in terms of selecting candidates has been truncated or suspended entirely, and we are likely to see a whole swathe of that faction given safe seats according to reports (many of them are responsible for candidate selection in the first place). Of course this was something that was loudly complained about between 2015 and 2019, but seems no longer to be an issue for some reason nowadays.

Potential alternate focuses for leadership - Andy Burnham, Angela Rayner or especially Sadiq Khan - are fairly regularly briefed against in the press, too. In short they have the habit of using their own parties resources and opportunities for their own ends, not for the wider interest of the party never mind what the country needs.

Where they've been proved wrong on an issue - Gaza being the worst, but also things like ULEZ - they've pretended that they were right all along despite all the evidence of what they said previously. Often this has crossed the border into outright lies.

That is just how they've behaved internally - how London boroughs like Croydon or Lambeth, or across the country like Birmingham or Wrexham should be seen as exemplars of open corruption and/or incompetence and very few (if any) of the faction's members or supporters ever face internal or criminal sanction for that. This faction have already ruined and are ruining otherwise decent places at the cost of hundreds of millions of taxpayer pounds. Their record - which includes in Croydon's case hacking into journalists and stealing their data - should be something that people factor in when determining whether or not they should be trusted with all of our futures.

There is no point, indeed its very dangerous, to have a two choice election where both choices are bad. We've just had fourteen years of one shower, and thirteen years before that of another, of bad leadership.

What we the electorate need to do what the system demands that we do - vote for the best candidate to represent all of us in the constituency in Parliament. I would argue that any candidate imposed without a free and fair selection process, from whatever party you happen to support, is unlikely to be the best candidate to represent you. If they were, they generally would not need to be imposed. Labour are likely to impose many candidates, and so I would make damned sure I understood who it was they were asking for me to vote for before I actually did it.
OK mate ;)
 

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The "Conscription Bounce" kicking in.

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Not that one poll is going to be a true reflection of things, but some of the calculated seat results off these numbers are glorious.
 
At the risk of pointing out something that has already been said multiple times, the main issue with the current leadership faction of the Labour Party is not, however much you get off on claiming this, that they were anti-Corbyn. There were lots of people who were against Corbyn - my current MP was one of them - but what is the issue is how that faction behave when given a modicum of power and whether they have the competence to run the country effectively.

Since they've been in charge of Labour they have, fairly ruthlessly, purged anyone who they identify as an open enemy from the party (or representing the party) using their control of the disciplinary system - from Corbyn himself, to people like Sam Tarry and Jamie Driscoll and now (it seems) Diane Abbott but also hundreds of ordinary people as well. Local choice in terms of selecting candidates has been truncated or suspended entirely, and we are likely to see a whole swathe of that faction given safe seats according to reports (many of them are responsible for candidate selection in the first place). Of course this was something that was loudly complained about between 2015 and 2019, but seems no longer to be an issue for some reason nowadays.

Potential alternate focuses for leadership - Andy Burnham, Angela Rayner or especially Sadiq Khan - are fairly regularly briefed against in the press, too. In short they have the habit of using their own parties resources and opportunities for their own ends, not for the wider interest of the party never mind what the country needs.

Where they've been proved wrong on an issue - Gaza being the worst, but also things like ULEZ - they've pretended that they were right all along despite all the evidence of what they said previously. Often this has crossed the border into outright lies.

That is just how they've behaved internally - how London boroughs like Croydon or Lambeth, or across the country like Birmingham or Wrexham should be seen as exemplars of open corruption and/or incompetence and very few (if any) of the faction's members or supporters ever face internal or criminal sanction for that. This faction have already ruined and are ruining otherwise decent places at the cost of hundreds of millions of taxpayer pounds. Their record - which includes in Croydon's case hacking into journalists and stealing their data - should be something that people factor in when determining whether or not they should be trusted with all of our futures.

There is no point, indeed its very dangerous, to have a two choice election where both choices are bad. We've just had fourteen years of one shower, and thirteen years before that of another, of bad leadership.

What we the electorate need to do what the system demands that we do - vote for the best candidate to represent all of us in the constituency in Parliament. I would argue that any candidate imposed without a free and fair selection process, from whatever party you happen to support, is unlikely to be the best candidate to represent you. If they were, they generally would not need to be imposed. Labour are likely to impose many candidates, and so I would make damned sure I understood who it was they were asking for me to vote for before I actually did it.

Very good post.

If people genuinely cared they’d take note of what is said here.
 
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