Papa Shango
Player Valuation: £70m
Maybe he needs to play/train better?Desperately needs game time. Everton or anywhere else to save his career.
The lad is obviously talented.
Maybe he needs to play/train better?Desperately needs game time. Everton or anywhere else to save his career.
Imagine the fume if we did that. "£40m! Why are we loaning him out FFS!!"Should have loaned him back to Southampton for the season..Not helped his progress sitting on our bench..
I don’t know I’m not an ITK. Are you?Okay,
then answer me. Why is Dibling here? Who asked for him if he hardly ever plays?
They can get as many fullbacks as they want. moyes vetoed bringing any in. He honestly can't be at the club if he doesn't think creating space is a worthwhile thing for wingers.Get fullbacks for next season. Give our wingers something to work with. I fully believe Dibling was the wrong signing but he is only being left to hang with the lack of support from the wing. He is not a pace merchant or somebody that can get in behind in a foot race.
That is the dream mateImagine if we were so good at planning ahead that the likes of Dibling and Azanou have been brought in to fit into a system we're yet to implement
Foden turned out ok and look how everyone moaned at Pep for how he managed him at the timeI just dont like players not playing in their formative years at all. It stunts development.
Yeah this is Moyes major mistake this season. It's led to drab football and CB's out of position.They can get as many fullbacks as they want. moyes vetoed bringing any in. He honestly can't be at the club if he doesn't think creating space is a worthwhile thing for wingers.
A lot of that spend in terms of value was necessary because of the number players leaving, but no doubt now with hindsight it could have been spent better, for short term gain, but is that what we want? It’s a tricky one. We needed instant starters AND future prospects, which would have cost double. So far our main young prospect looks like he will be the same player this summer as he was last summer in terms of experience, which shocking. Falls on him and the club jointly.Yeah this is Moyes major mistake this season. It's led to drab football and CB's out of position.
I thought the Jack gamble and the longer it dragged on showed something very wrong with our summer trading.
If we get in Europe, needless to say Moyes has fairly vindicated himself with tangible progress, a better recruitment position, and maybe the lad's like Dibling, Rohl etc are closer to readiness next season when they'll be needed.
That's the best thing for EFC, the fans the players, so go on Davey.
We need the jack money for FBs though... and Tyrique and Illy get the left spot.
If we're miles off Europe it starts to question what Moyes achieved, beyond safety and no cup runs for whatever money spent ( £130m or something?).
Yeah that's true about expectations and the balance of player needed.A lot of that spend in terms of value was necessary because of the number players leaving, but no doubt now with hindsight it could have been spent better, for short term gain, but is that what we want? It’s a tricky one. We needed instant starters AND future prospects, which would have cost double. So far our main young prospect looks like he will be the same player this summer as he was last summer in terms of experience, which shocking. Falls on him and the club jointly.
Many would have said they’d love a calm comfortable mid table season to consolidate our recovery and settle in to BMD. Now we are upper mid table, we are saying Moyes has failed miserably if we don’t get Europe. Target should defo change for the second half of the season change depending on how the first half goes. But sort of feels like the better we’ve done, the more disappointed we’ll be if we don’t get Europe. And if we do qualify, the complaints about style of football and Aznou’s minutes will fall silent.
A lot of that spend in terms of value was necessary because of the number players leaving, but no doubt now with hindsight it could have been spent better, for short term gain, but is that what we want? It’s a tricky one. We needed instant starters AND future prospects, which would have cost double. So far our main young prospect looks like he will be the same player this summer as he was last summer in terms of experience, which shocking. Falls on him and the club jointly.
Many would have said they’d love a calm comfortable mid table season to consolidate our recovery and settle in to BMD. Now we are upper mid table, we are saying Moyes has failed miserably if we don’t get Europe. Target should defo change for the second half of the season change depending on how the first half goes. But sort of feels like the better we’ve done, the more disappointed we’ll be if we don’t get Europe. And if we do qualify, the complaints about style of football and Aznou’s minutes will fall silent.
Usual nonsense. If he gets Europe then it should be, I Zat, the lover of kids, am a complete bellend who knows [Poor language removed] all about football after criticising Moyes all seasonIve been pretty consistent that either:
We get Europe OR We develop the young players
If we get Europe then Moyes has those young players who can play so theres no squad depth issue for the league in their positions.
If we dont then weve got a handful of young players who have been underused and underdeveloped.
Also what young player would want to play for a manager that doesnt use the likes of Aznou, Dibling etc and even when others like Alcaraz, Patterson and Rohl perform in a game...are dropped.
Could see plenty of player rejections in the summer and Moyes saying again hes "surprised".
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