How many of them counted though mate? You've got to remember, according to some lads on here, if a goal he scored was insignificant to the outcome of the game, it doesn't count.
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How many of them counted though mate? You've got to remember, according to some lads on here, if a goal he scored was insignificant to the outcome of the game, it doesn't count.
evertonarntwe
Player Valuation: £35m
pickford is better than cech, chech has gone massively downhill since he left Chelsea and is riddled with mistakes, probably in the minority here but I think Lloris is one of the most over rated keepers I have ever seen, again the amount of stupid goals he concedes is absolutely ludicrous ( he makes a worldy save 10 minutes after which always overshadows it )
coleman would get in liverpools team, arsenals team and spurs ( aurier is clumsy and tripper is decent but not yet at colemans level )
gueye I'd have in arsenal and liverpools team providing his job is just to break up play and nothing else because that's the only roll he excels in
Walcott would get a game somewhere as well
coleman would get in liverpools team, arsenals team and spurs ( aurier is clumsy and tripper is decent but not yet at colemans level )
gueye I'd have in arsenal and liverpools team providing his job is just to break up play and nothing else because that's the only roll he excels in
Walcott would get a game somewhere as well
I'm with you. TBH, this thread doesn't really float my boat but it doesn't mean that it isn't worth being here.
In reality, rather than comparing what we have with other clubs, I'm more interested in comparing the players now with how they can play. I don't see many in our current squad playing to their potential, with most considerably under-performing compared to their previous clubs.
Conte at Chelsea recently said that he sees himself as the kind of manager that can get a few percent extra from players on the training pitch rather than one who buys teams. Sadly it seems Allardyce is the opposite.
Conte at Chelsea recently said that he sees himself as the kind of manager that can get a few percent extra from players on the training pitch rather than one who buys teams. Sadly it seems Allardyce is the opposite.
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Big Fat Sam
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Must be being thick, but I can't for the life of me understand why some of our players' names are in bold, and others not!
Does it mean the bold ones would get into certain teams' squads, but the non-bold ones are deemed not good enough to displace players mentioned in the brackets?
If so, I don't see why Sigurdsson is classed as being inferior to Son, or Gueye inferior to Dier or Xhaka, or Pickford inferior to Cech, or Walcott inferior to the massively overrated Pedro.
Does it mean the bold ones would get into certain teams' squads, but the non-bold ones are deemed not good enough to displace players mentioned in the brackets?
If so, I don't see why Sigurdsson is classed as being inferior to Son, or Gueye inferior to Dier or Xhaka, or Pickford inferior to Cech, or Walcott inferior to the massively overrated Pedro.
Carlito
Player Valuation: £40m
I think that United will look for an upgrade sooner rather than later. His stats will always stand up, but his performances against good sides are pathetic.
Deckard2049
Player Valuation: £15m
Arsenal literally just signed Aubameyang. Could we have done that? Financially maybe. In terms of status? What do you think? It’s a top 6 because those clubs are either competing for the top 4 or at least all in with a shout of winning a trophy or two. The sky love in is a bit OTT but it reflects the current status of the league.
Deckard2049
Player Valuation: £15m
Just because they’re not in bold doesn’t mean they’re being classed as inferior (I think). It simply means there’s marginal differences between the players and probably other reasons as to why they wouldn’t displace players at top 6 clubs. For example for the price they’d probably have to pay and for the player they’d be getting would Spurs really want Gueye? And they literally had Sigurdsson and now have Son who has done more for them than Gylfi ever did. Doesn’t mean he’s a bad player... for us. But he’s not so good that a club higher up than us would be desperate to get him and do anything to make it happen.
Walcott is a good example of this.. looks like a potentially great signing.. FOR US. At only £20 million it was surprising no-one else went for him but that’s just the way it is. The only question that really needs asking is “does player X improve our current first XI and squad?”. Admittedly given how this season has panned out that’s not exactly hard, but if you can answer yes to that question then that’s not a bad start. No point worrying about the top 6.
I doubt it personally, but even if you're right it certainly won't be because he's 'out of his depth'.
mkrudden
Player Valuation: £40m
Steve?!
Fair point, re: stating we haven't brought well. I should have stated "we arguably haven't brought well this last eighteen months".
But I agree, we're chucking money at players and hoping. My broader point was that it isn't impossible to buy quality but we seem to have lost that knack. Agree none of them were world-class stars but we used to at least find players to function at a high level in a team. Which top 6 club's would buy. Currently we are not.
Am I right in thinking his record against 'top 6' sides is 6 goals in 50 odd games?
I'm not sure what it is now, but I know that he scored 14 goals for us against those sides in the 4 seasons we had him. Could be better obviously, but it's nowhere near as bad as some people liked to make out.
Ah, that is better than I thought it was. http://www.planetfootball.com/quick...-lukakus-record-v-big-six-kane-aguero-vardys/
This has a breakdown (albeit up until last October). Since arriving in the Premier League in 2011 the 24-year-old has scored only 15 goals in 57 games against Arsenal, Chelsea, Liverpool, Manchester City, Manchester United and Tottenham
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