Today’s Football 2020/21 Season

[TheBigIguana]

They give learning materials for teaching in schools in the UK (ie taxpayer funded). They're an organisation.

Ok. I didn't know exactly where they have real organizations at this point, however I do know that it is not as many places as have claimed to support BLM, so at some level there is a value that people have associated with BLM that is unrelated to the organizational part.

 

[Kenshin]

Look how easy it is though.

This is UKBLM.



They did call to defund the police.

This is BLMUK, which is that website.

https://twitter.com/BLMUK

Literally have to state they are not ukblm.

You surely can see why I made this joke earlier.

Why on earth want to defund the police? They have had millions stripped away from them already? They are shot staffed

Are they just repeating American actions even when it would be a bad idea ?

 

[tsubaki]

I now agree with the other fella due to your insolence.

good, perhaps you can find the things he claimed existed then

 

[Jamo Martinez]

Taking the knee is explicitly stated as supporting BLM

Supporting the BLM stance against systemic racism.

It's really not that difficult.

 

[tsubaki]

Supporting the BLM stance against systemic racism.

It's really not that difficult.

it isn’t, but people are trying ever so hard to invent reasons why people shouldn’t support it.

 

[mccole]

Summary of tonight thread:
Man United out
Koeman keeps bringing the funnys
And local Klan meeting

 

[Tubey]

Summary of tonight thread:
Man United out
Koeman keeps bringing the funnys
And local Klan meeting

Bring Your Own Beer

 

[Kenshin]

Whats mental is social media has become judge, jury and executioner these days.

I always wonder are these people who demand someone is sacked, tarred, feathered and their kids stoned in front of their eyes as perfect in real life as they are online?

Im far from perfect which is why I dont judge others unless something is stonewall wrong. If others did the same the world would be a better place.

Social media isn't the real world. It's a sound board given a bigger platform that is feels like it invades day to day life as people spend more time online.

More people need to go live in the real world a little more (he's says on a forum lol)

Both of these are true.

Everything is online, twitter Facebook itc with trashy news sites promoting minority of voices to make them sound like the majority.

As I've said before. It's the social media generation. It's a cancer to society. What I mean is everyone follows their own opinions. Twitter you can purposely seek them out and on Facebook you filter all your family and friends until you all agree on the same issues. Surround yourself with only your own opinion and you lose perspective of how you may be wrong. This leads to protests because you become angry and then social media has become reality.

Sorry for the tangent.

Means it's took over. But if more people logged off as it were and left it, there would be far less conflict and far more acceptance. Right now people jump on bandwagons even if they really don't believe it deep down.

 

[Melba Toast]

Both of these are true.

Everything is online, twitter Facebook itc with trashy news sites promoting minority of voices to make them sound like the majority.

As I've said before. It's the social media generation. It's a cancer to society. What I mean is everyone follows their own opinions. Twitter you can purposely seek them out and on Facebook you filter all your family and friends until you all agree on the same issues. Surround yourself with only your own opinion and you lose perspective of how you may be wrong. This leads to protests because you become angry and then social media has become reality.

Sorry for the tangent.

Means it's took over. But if more people logged off as it were and left it, there would be far less conflict and far more acceptance. Right now people jump on bandwagons even if they really don't believe it deep down.

It's called Confirmation bias.

Next time you won't have to write out a whole paragraph.

 

[Jamo Martinez]

If he were the guy who was black, why would it be offensive. It's like those Question Time episodes where the host is too scared to describe the person he is trying pick on to ask a question : "yes, you, the person, the person over there, the person in clothes, you in the audience".
I have my mates round from time to time, and I'll reference them, but of course my family don't know who each of them is verbatim, so when they ask 'who's that one again', and I say the 'mixed raced girl', is that racist? Or should I go "ah yes, the person, the person who came to the house, the person who I'm friends with, the person who worse some clothes?

Do people have no other physical features apart from skin colour. If everyone in the room is of the same skin colour, we find a way to describe them.

The fact is, most of us were born and raised in a culture where it was perfectly acceptable for non racist people to use colour adjectives when talking about people. So it seems perfectly reasonable and inoffensive for most of us who are in the ethnic majority to continue using them when we mean no offense. However, I think it's important for us to recognise that, far too often, people of ethnic minorities have heard colour adjectives used to describe them in a far more insidious way to single them out.

I know where you're coming from. I use the same terms myself. As you say, if there is a group of people and some one asks ''who's Sandra?'' it's the easy way out to say ''the black girl'' instead of saying '' the one with the yellow top''. But we've no idea how many times 'Sandra' has heard things like ''the black girl?, no, I'm not inviting her to my party!'' or ''the black girl, no I don't think she's right for this position'' or ''she's quite pretty for a black girl''. And far worse. So with that in mind, I can see why people find it offensive and I'm willing to make the effort and try and re-educate myself.

 

[Jamo Martinez]

Maybe I wasn't clear in my point about the political party. They may not be the same group, but the point is that it's a political party. Shall we kneel every game for Boris?

They can be contradictory in what they say. They had to remove from that site, their goals to 'dismantle western civilisation', 'abolish the police', and 'dismantle capitalist society'. Their actions are load also speak loader than their platitudes.

If the tories said, we're for the working class, would you suddenly believe them because it was on their website, or would you instead look at what they do?

Sorry mate but that's a ridiculous comparison. Taking a knee was explicitly started in Europe to support the Black Lives Matter 'movement' which was a movement to counter systemic racism and disproportionate police violence against blacks. And when you look at what the vast majority of the people involved in that 'movement' do and have done, you can see that it is peaceful protests designed to draw attention to the problem of systemic racism and disproportionate police violence against blacks.

 

[Jamo Martinez]

Donate to BLM UK (@BLMUK) (UK BLM Fund) Which has raised over a million pounds. And I quote:

"We're guided by a commitment to dismantle capitalism".

How do I join?

 

[Jamo Martinez]

Why on earth want to defund the police? They have had millions stripped away from them already? They are shot staffed

Are they just repeating American actions even when it would be a bad idea ?

Bad choice of words there mate.

 

[d34noj]

They’re both racist sentences whether one offends you or not.

No they're not, they're both DESCRIPTIVE sentences.

Let's say a black man is stood with a group of white men and you wanted to pick him out, whats the main descriptive you would use?

Using the term 'black man' isn't racist, as the player in question was indeed - black. Is is misogynistic to call a woman a 'woman'?

EXACTLY.

 

[kenada_blue]

Both of these are true.

Everything is online, twitter Facebook itc with trashy news sites promoting minority of voices to make them sound like the majority.

As I've said before. It's the social media generation. It's a cancer to society. What I mean is everyone follows their own opinions. Twitter you can purposely seek them out and on Facebook you filter all your family and friends until you all agree on the same issues. Surround yourself with only your own opinion and you lose perspective of how you may be wrong. This leads to protests because you become angry and then social media has become reality.

Sorry for the tangent.

Means it's took over. But if more people logged off as it were and left it, there would be far less conflict and far more acceptance. Right now people jump on bandwagons even if they really don't believe it deep down.

It's a bubble you've set up. So it'll be based on your views, likes, opinions. That gets targeted "suggestions" "you may like" etc.

It's why I find it amusing that people were shocked at the past few elections for eg. "All I saw was support for Labour/insert party online etc". Well...that's the problem. It's your bubble