Today’s Football 2020/21 Season

[Tubey]

YES! That's the one hahahaha

 

[SpongeBob brown shoes]

old white dudes

Ageist, racist and sexist in one sentence

 

[kenada_blue]

Too many old white dudes in this thread with no clue

Guess they're all racist. Or open for debate. Or neither.

 

[DOMNOLAN]

Everyone with the right number of holes in their head knows that taking a knee is a gesture supporting the fight against racism.

Muddying the waters with nonsense about not agreeing with the political aims of the BLM movement is akin to some sections of the media referring to fascists as 'anti-anti-fascists'.

Taking the knee is explicitly stated as supporting BLM

 

[Tubey]

Bwahahahaha

 

[ForeverBlue92]

Everyone just needs to stand back and get some perspective. But that seems impossible in the modern age of microaggressions and critical race theory.

Whats mental is social media has become judge, jury and executioner these days.

I always wonder are these people who demand someone is sacked, tarred, feathered and their kids stoned in front of their eyes as perfect in real life as they are online?

Im far from perfect which is why I dont judge others unless something is stonewall wrong. If others did the same the world would be a better place.

 

[JobForTheMoyes]

The footage is out there, the game wasn’t restarted, someone out there found it racist. That’s all that matters.

No. Whether he was actually BEING racist is what matters. Just because he speaks a language where a word sounds like another word used as a slur in the United States (and the UK) is not enough for me.

 

[JobForTheMoyes]

Whats mental is social media has become judge, jury and executioner these days.

I always wonder are these people who demand someone is sacked, tarred, feathered and their kids stoned in front of their eyes as perfect in real life as they are online?

Im far from perfect which is why I dont judge others unless something is stonewall wrong. If others did the same the world would be a better place.

There is something I heard once - 'judge someone by the content of their character, not the colour of their skin.' That seems a bit old hat nowadays.

 

[Tubey]

No. Whether he was actually BEING racist is what matters. Just because he speaks a language where a word sounds like another word used as a slur in the United States (and the UK) is not enough for me.

Thing is mate, while I agree for you about context being important and the Romanians/Bulgarians of this world not being generally what you'd call, err... "progressive" on race, the guy has a job which involves going to other countries and refereeing different races and nationalities.

If he's that clueless that he can't understand identifying someone via skin colour in this climate is going to be seen as offensive, then he should be sacked for just being thick if nothing else.

I do get your point - you aren't convinced it was deliberate racism. Neither am I. But it's still racism, even if subsconscious, as the first identifier he's gone for is skin colour.

 

[duncs pigeon]

Farcical that Man U finish third in a group of 4 teams and get knocked out but then get rewarded by going into the Europa League

All to suit the money teams mate. Said this a few years ago, likes of Utd still a pull for tv even in the EL.

 

[Nymzee]

No. Whether he was actually BEING racist is what matters. Just because he speaks a language where a word sounds like another word used as a slur in the United States (and the UK) is not enough for me.

I’m pretty sure the people involved in this couldn’t give a toss what you think about it in all honesty.

 

[JobForTheMoyes]

Thing is mate, while I agree for you about context being important and the Romanians/Bulgarians of this world not being generally what you'd call, err... "progressive" on race, the guy has a job which involves going to other countries and refereeing different races and nationalities.

If he's that clueless that he can't understand identifying someone via skin colour in this climate is going to be seen as offensive, then he should be sacked for just being thick if nothing else.

I do get your point - you aren't convinced it was deliberate racism. Neither am I. But it's still racism, even if subsconscious, as the first identifier he's gone for is skin colour.

Its a very slippery slope though. It seems rather culturally imperialist to punish a foreign national for using his own language. If the chap was the only black coach in the team's staff, and so he used this rather obvious descriptor to point him out then I just do not see how he is being racist. Mentioning someone's colour per se cannot (or at least should not) be racist, unless you believe certain shades of colour are bad in their own right.

 

[kenada_blue]

Whats mental is social media has become judge, jury and executioner these days.

I always wonder are these people who demand someone is sacked, tarred, feathered and their kids stoned in front of their eyes as perfect in real life as they are online?

Im far from perfect which is why I dont judge others unless something is stonewall wrong. If others did the same the world would be a better place.

Social media isn't the real world. It's a sound board given a bigger platform that is feels like it invades day to day life as people spend more time online.

More people need to go live in the real world a little more (he's says on a forum lol)

 

[JobForTheMoyes]

I’m pretty sure the people involved in this couldn’t give a toss what you think about it in all honesty.

Charming!

 

[Nymzee]

Charming!

Well they obviously don’t haha. Like I say, someone has found this offensive, a game has been stopped, the tape is out there, it’s still not been restarted, something will come out of it.

Whether you agree with it or not ultimately doesn’t matter because you’re not involved in the incident.