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[tsubaki]

I'm taking the piss because I have to, otherwise I really would have to take you seriously and believe you honestly think that because they call themselves different organisations they don't, in fact, all share the same central premise and are therefore, for all practical purposes, the exact same thing.

Right. So when you said they were an organization, what you meant was you'd put them all in the same box.

 

[DOMNOLAN]

right - you do know that we can go back and see what was on that site via the wayback machine, don't you?

Yes, I read it with my own eyes. It was on BLM UK's website (April/May, to be as helpful as I can). Have fun.

 

[Tubey]

Right. So when you said they were an organization, what you meant was you'd put them all in the same box.

Hate to Wiki this but it's a very good surmation.

The Black Lives Matter Global Network Foundation is a decentralized organization with multiple chapters based in various cities dedicated to organizing and continuing activist activities in the Black Lives Matter movement. The organization has no leader and most chapters act very autonomously. The organization is often mistaken for other organizations in the Black Lives Matter movement because it often solely employs the phrase "Black Lives Matter" as its name.[2] While the BLMGNF often simply calls itself "Black Lives Matter" it is not the sole organization within the broader Black Lives Matter social movement.[3]

A decentralised organisation is still an organisation by definition, because an organisation is a group of people with a central purpose.

The reason it's so loosely affiliated is to be able to disassociate from crackpots if need be, and allow fluidity in the movement.

But it's an organisation by definition.

 

[Tubey]

We've annihilated this thread/forum. Bailing before banned!

 

[DOMNOLAN]

Too many old white dudes in this thread with no clue

Anyone want to call out this guy's racism since we seem to be on that track?

 

[tsubaki]

Hate to Wiki this but it's a very good surmation.



A decentralised organisation is still an organisation by definition, because an organisation is a group of people with a central purpose.

The reason it's so loosely affiliated is to be able to disassociate from crackpots if need be, and allow fluidity in the movement.

But it's an organisation by definition.

Tubey that literally says:

The organization is often mistaken for other organizations in the Black Lives Matter movement because it often solely employs the phrase "Black Lives Matter" as its name.

I don't know how else to get you to understand that it (BLM) isn't "an organization" if even the evidence you post is saying that it isn't one. Its many organizations, groups, movements etc, all over the world. That they all share similar names and similar overall goals doesn't make them the same thing.

 

[tsubaki]

Yes, I read it with my own eyes. It was on BLM UK's website (April/May, to be as helpful as I can). Have fun.

Well, I am going to hazard a guess - based on the complete lack of updates to the site recorded on the web archive (which usually indicates it wasn't busy), the site not saying what you claimed it said now and most importantly George Floyd not being killed until the end of May (which triggered this round of BLM protests) - and say you are telling fibs.

 

[Tubey]

Tubey that literally says:

The organization is often mistaken for other organizations in the Black Lives Matter movement because it often solely employs the phrase "Black Lives Matter" as its name.

I don't know how else to get you to understand that it isn't "an organization" if even the evidence you post is saying that it isn't one. Its many organizations, groups, movements etc, all over the world. That they all share similar names and similar overall goals doesn't make them the same thing.

Yes, a decentralised organisation.

Still an organisation. Again, can't be disentangled as to what the central premise is, and that's what binds them together - the aims of the founders, the ethos behind it. They are organised in that respect; an organisation.

Here's BLM retweeting BLMUK.



That's an organisation with different chapters.

 

[Tubey]

Well, I am going to hazard a guess - based on the complete lack of updates to the site recorded on the web archive (which usually indicates it wasn't busy), the site not saying what you claimed it said now and most importantly George Floyd not being killed until the end of May (which triggered this round of BLM protests) - and say you are telling fibs.

He may be confused with this.

Political party | Taking The Initiative Party

Taking The Initiative Party is a political party registered in Britain focused on providing a voice for the British people who want to change Britain for the better.

www.theinitiativeparty.org.uk

Person behind this is a lunatic.



Can't say for sure though, but it's possible. It's very easy to lose track.

 

[TheBigIguana]

BLM is an organisation, I don't understand how that's even debatable. What a ridiculous thing to say haha. They have filed to be a political party and are currently in the process of doing so, do your research. Manifesto, read their site. They say that it's in support of them, so I choose to take them at their word and believe them.

It's an organization in the US. I think elsewhere it is more of an idea. Maybe it isn't in the UK anymore.

In the US they have some controversial views which most people find less controversial upon reading them explained out. Maybe you don't think so, but overthrow of Western society is extreme.

That said Western society hasn't really been too great for black people has it?

 

[TheBigIguana]

We've annihilated this thread/forum. Bailing before banned!

Hopefully no bans as this needs to be discussed but maybe a thread of its own would be worthwhile.

 

[tsubaki]

He may be confused with this.

Political party | Taking The Initiative Party

Taking The Initiative Party is a political party registered in Britain focused on providing a voice for the British people who want to change Britain for the better.

www.theinitiativeparty.org.uk

Person behind this is a lunatic.

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Can't say for sure though, but it's possible. It's very easy to lose track.

Doubt it, in the post @DOMNOLAN specifically said what site it was on and when, and then said something else about the site (about the party) that the site directly contradicted. I am fairly confident wham was being talked in those posts.

 

[Toast]

We've annihilated this thread/forum. Bailing before banned!

Using the word annihilated just made me look this up.
So thanks as it’s taken me back..

 

[tsubaki]

Yes, a decentralised organisation.

Still an organisation. Again, can't be disentangled as to what the central premise is, and that's what binds them together - the aims of the founders, the ethos behind it. They are organised in that respect; an organisation.

Here's BLM retweeting BLMUK.



That's an organisation with different chapters.

It isn't. What you've posted describes one BLM organization, not all BLM organizations, groups etc. They are not, and IIRC have never been, one movement although (strangely enough) they do tend to agree in some areas.

 

[Tubey]

Doubt it, in the post @DOMNOLAN specifically said what site it was on and when, and then said it said (about the party) something the site directly contradicted. I am fairly confident wham was being talked in those posts.

Look how easy it is though.

This is UKBLM.



They did call to defund the police.

This is BLMUK, which is that website.

https://twitter.com/BLMUK

Literally have to state they are not ukblm.

You surely can see why I made this joke earlier.