If you watch the video, one of the people being punched has a black jacket on with a red shirt underneath. Not that it really matters, but you seem intent on discrediting every part of what happened so thought I'd point it out.
I thought it was blatantly obvious in one of the birdseye videos that there is a person wearing a grey hoodie or jumper who has a red arsenal top underneath
If it’s not an arsenal top but just a red shirt why would you still wear red in the away section and try and hide it by wearing a grey jumper / hoodie?
If it’s not an arsenal top but just a red shirt why would you still wear red in the away section and try and hide it by wearing a grey jumper / hoodie?
You calling @Tom Hughes a liar?
Personally can't see why he would lie and has been a respected poster on here for years.
How is he making it worse. If he didn’t give tickets to Arsenal fans he’s done nothing wrong and is entitled to say so.
preposterousvelios
Player Valuation: £15m
Respectfully, I've not seen any of that. I've seen the one tweet that was shared on here, and appeared to be the basis of what most people were saying was the cause of these people being attacked.
Personally I think you can take one look at the video, and tell exactly what kind of person the fella who's leading the charge and throwing punches is. But that's just me.
Do you think supporting a different football team than the people around you justifies them giving you a beating mate?
Also how’s the YouTube channel going?
Even celebs don’t get away with it
Here’s a Man Utd fan pretending to be a Burnley fan to fit in with the crowd and he still got kicked out
Here’s a Man Utd fan pretending to be a Burnley fan to fit in with the crowd and he still got kicked out
The truth will come out in the end, CCTV will get to the bottom of it.
Drico
Player Valuation: £70m
I'm Irish and we go to matches with 40,000 - 80,000 people plus regularly and mingle supporters with next to no issue. Yes, working class supporters, middle class supporters, the lot. And, no, football is not a more passionate sport than hurling. So this idea that violence is natural among mingled supporters reflects on local culture - or tolerated culture - rather than anything else. That's the GAA. In soccer, however, we seem to be like the English: our fans don't really mingle. So, soccer as a sport seems to tolerate this.
Of course, knowing what we know about football culture in England and elsewhere, openly cheering the opposition in a particular end isn't the brightest course of action.
Whatever went on last night, the optics are terrrible: a gang of white people assaulting a few black people. I don't think any of us should be condoning that, whatever the alleged provocation.
Regardless, the reality is we seem to see more action from Barry on Instagram than we do on the pitch. He's free to point out what he feels he needs to point out on social media - maybe he even has a point with some of it - but it's pretty clear that we need a better striker. I hope he's packed on his way in the summer. Persevering with him means the likes of Kinnear is unprepared to admit an error and condemns us to another season of failing to hit a cow's arse with a banjo.
Of course, knowing what we know about football culture in England and elsewhere, openly cheering the opposition in a particular end isn't the brightest course of action.
Whatever went on last night, the optics are terrrible: a gang of white people assaulting a few black people. I don't think any of us should be condoning that, whatever the alleged provocation.
Regardless, the reality is we seem to see more action from Barry on Instagram than we do on the pitch. He's free to point out what he feels he needs to point out on social media - maybe he even has a point with some of it - but it's pretty clear that we need a better striker. I hope he's packed on his way in the summer. Persevering with him means the likes of Kinnear is unprepared to admit an error and condemns us to another season of failing to hit a cow's arse with a banjo.
preposterousvelios
Player Valuation: £15m
Making it worse? What if what he's saying is the truth? It lines up with whats just been said by a poster who was in that away end.
This is already a shameful situation that will be made worse if people make it worse due to their preexisting dislike of one of our players.
I think you’re right but it’s a messy business , allegations of all kinds can be made and refuted . I imagine any away fan facing legal scrutiny would say he saw home fans in the segregated away seating and presumed they’d come to cause trouble and therefore sought to defend themselves .
I agree CCTV assists but the whole thing is an easily avoided mess .
TalkingEverton
Player Valuation: £150k
My mates were there and they said there was issues all through the game with them. At half time the stewards had to go and have a word with them because they were jumping up and down and cheering every time Arsenal had a chance. They were allowed to stay and watch the 2nd half but carried on all the way through the 2nd half until Arsenal scored which they celebrated. Then when fans were leaving they were recording them laughing at them and thats what kicked it all off.
I'm not going to call someone a liar when I wasn't there and maybe some d*ck head did shout something racist which is abhorrent but this was all caused by their behaviour in the first place. They had zero respect for our fans and unfortunately for them it didn't end well.
Toffeelover
Player Valuation: £80m
And Beto.
The new alex nyarko??
