Shevin Keedy
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So the police appear either powerless (or possibly hindered by higher ups) to do anything to stop it. What would you suggest?
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The thing is, these statues weren’t erected through a democratic process.
One thing that was pointed out to me which I think is really valid.
Look just how many statues are being talked about. Just how many pivotal people in this country have dubious roots.
This country was built on the back of white supremacy. That history is painful to people of colour who helped build it but are not recognised for their part. Because they weren’t classed as people. And the ongoing effects of that, the views of those people of the time, the people who had a say, has had an ongoing effect even today. I personally think it’s time we start recognising that and start shaping the future in a way that is fairer for all. If that means some statues come down then so be it.
''Often during the 2010s, and particularly following the 2016 Black Lives Matter march, an unofficial home-made plaque about the slave trade was placed on the statue, and in other locations around the city centre.
That unofficial plaque prompted the question about whether or not there should be an official one, and that was something viewed as a compromise by many, including those at the top of Bristol City Council.
There was controversy. The words were picked over in detail and it seemed every word was challenged and debated.
A second draft, and then a third argued over the meaning of the words throughout much of 2018.
In the July, and faced with the prospect of the official council-commissioned project to come up with the wording of the plaque digging in over the debate, Cllr Richard Eddy went public again. He said he objected so strongly to the proposed wording of the proposed plaque that if it were put onto the statue of Edward Colston, then vandalising it or stealing it 'may be justified'.
In recent months and years, the statue has had white paint daubed on its face, shackles and chains attached to it, a yarn-bombed ball and chain attached to its leg and the alternative plaque.''
Should've gone in the water or a museum years ago tbh, save 55 pages of drivel and faux outrage
That unofficial plaque prompted the question about whether or not there should be an official one, and that was something viewed as a compromise by many, including those at the top of Bristol City Council.
There was controversy. The words were picked over in detail and it seemed every word was challenged and debated.
A second draft, and then a third argued over the meaning of the words throughout much of 2018.
In the July, and faced with the prospect of the official council-commissioned project to come up with the wording of the plaque digging in over the debate, Cllr Richard Eddy went public again. He said he objected so strongly to the proposed wording of the proposed plaque that if it were put onto the statue of Edward Colston, then vandalising it or stealing it 'may be justified'.
In recent months and years, the statue has had white paint daubed on its face, shackles and chains attached to it, a yarn-bombed ball and chain attached to its leg and the alternative plaque.''
Should've gone in the water or a museum years ago tbh, save 55 pages of drivel and faux outrage
dead_soft
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It's not a slippery slope - the two are not particularly similar. One was an attempt to completely overthrow the current government and install an illegal government. The others were direct actions attempting to bring about change.
Remember folks.
Old white men are all evil.
Old white men are all evil.
Ffs.
Just been reading about him. He set up schools for African American children. Was marginalised for his views on the abolition of slavery.
It’s diluting the message entirely.
atypicalusername
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I think you have some arguments in fairly modern history about the lack of acknowledgement of the part that minorities played. You must recognise surely that a significant majority of minority people were never slaves or descended from slaves of the British? The largest wave of minority population spikes came after the war through the commonwealth and I think we improved everywhere that was part of our commonwealth in the long run? I mean there is a reason that a lot of people from Hong Kong supposedly want to return to the empire? It's a heavy subject to go into it all and I'm not sure that there is a right answer. Weren't a significant amount of the statues in question put up with private money and I assume they would have required planning permission in some cases?
atypicalusername
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I'm just saying you talk about direct change and I was just giving an example of what happens when it gets out of hand. The base disregard of democracy is the thing linking them, even if the intent of outcome isn't the same.
Ihaters
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Arrest the people doing the criminal damage?
Maybe if people/newspapers stop romanticising the morons doing the damage and somehow suggesting it's a moral grey area, and start pointing out that not only is it a criminal activity, its damn right stupid at this moment in time, that may help too?
I wonder how many lives BLM will costs us globally through these protests, it's a shame all lives don't matter to them imo.
Mostly though... Winston Churchill ffs. Crossed a line for me there.
I wonder if BLM would mind if Malcom X statues started getting destroyed by outraged women, annoyed by the way he treated women as part of a larger anti sexism campaign?
The binman chronicles
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This is what it comes down to in the end, it's acting out for no apparent reason. No one could ever walk past that statue and get upset yet they still vandalise it just because it is the 'in' thing to do.
tsubaki
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Idiocy that, though of course the likes of Duffy will use it to push their agenda all over the place.
NilSatisOptimum
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No whisky stained cigar graveled voice for a call to arms to "fight them on the beaches" that's for sure...
And don't forget the streets, hills and the land ...
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