Current Affairs The Landmarks of Slavery;

[Spadge Vernacular]

You have definitely not met many radical leftists if you think I am.

In my academic life I have and do meet the full spectrum. It is part of the day to day.

 

[ForeverBlue92]

They’d have a go regardless.

But, yeah, as with anything it always goes to far and the debate gets lost.

I agree with that sentiment, but getting the army on the streets, race riots between the EDL and the far left, where is this coming from?

Spurs lads on here said that hooligans from London clubs are getting together on the weekend to defend monuments.

I'll be absolutely amazed if it doesn't all end in tears.

 

[Amw79]

Have I ever called anyone a bigot, racist, ostrich, or gammon?

It's quite an interesting argument to say that people should stop 'do goody' should they 'do baddery' instead?

Bloody “do-gooders”.

Going around.

Doing good.

 

[Charro]

Spurs lads on here said that hooligans from London clubs are getting together on the weekend to defend monuments.

I'll be absolutely amazed if it doesn't all end in tears.

I rest my case your honour

 

[ForeverBlue92]

I rest my case your honour

So you can not believe anything you are told unless its by a blue ticker on twitter?

Ok mate

 

[dead_soft]

Thats where they dont realise they are being brainwashed.

If they were truly fighting for equality - why not take on the elite who are currently doing the oppressing?

Maybe because the elite who are pulling the strings have conned them into not realising that all this rubbish / mob hand will do nothing but fracture their support and inevitably lead to clashes with the right therefore the message is lost and nothing changes.

Just a quick one fir our files: are you on the brainwashed by mainstream media or brainwashed by George Soros side?

 

[Charro]

So you can not believe anything you are told unless its by a blue ticker on twitter?

Ok mate

I’ve asked you where you’re getting your info from and you responded with some fella off the internet.

I don’t know where else to go with this really.

 

[edge]

So you can not believe anything you are told unless its by a blue ticker on twitter?

Ok mate

i had a look on the Millwall forum yesterday after H H put it on here , they were talking about this days a go, so he deffo wasnt making it up that it was doing the rounds down there.

 

[Billy Dean]

You'd hope not haha - but it did spark a pretty heated conversation at the time.

Churchill's life and legacy is extremely well known, both the positives and negatives. It just so happens that for the vast majority the positives win out. Call it the "benefit of the doubt".

You'd be hard pressed to find a public/venerated figure that was flawless. Mother Teresa is hugely controversial for example. Ghandi too. Christopher Columbus etc. etc.

Then you have someone like Robert E. Lee, who was a respected figure in his time but was on the losing side of history. A lot of good, a lot of bad, but no denying his historical importance.

But it comes back to the central question - for all of these people, what does pulling down a statue achieve? For me, it's nothing but superficial achievement for those who want to "topple the racists"... from hundreds of years ago, often when the concept of racism was barely even a thing, instead of toppling the racists now.

Re your last paragraph, it sort of remains to be seen what will be achieved. But as others have posted there’s more debate and knowledge about the legacy of the slave trade now than there was before it came down. Sadiq Khan is reviewing landmarks in London etc. We don’t know yet what else will come out of it in the long term in terms with dealing with racism going on now, it’s too early to say at the moment.

 

[ForeverBlue92]

I’ve asked you where you’re getting your info from and you responded with some fella off the internet.

I don’t know where else to go with this really.

Well where else would I get information about possible upcoming social unrest from?

You think the Direct Gov website will be privvy to some random thugs rocking up to cause bother?

If Mersyeside/Manchester clubs had hooligans rocking up in the city im pretty sure you would read about it on here like considering news travels not just in the places you like to read it from.

 

[Billy Dean]

i had a look on the Millwall forum yesterday after H H put it on here , they were talking about this days a go, so he deffo wasnt making it up that it was doing the rounds down there.

I dont think not upsetting Millwall fans should be a reason to or not to do something

 

[dead_soft]

Well where else would I get information about possible upcoming social unrest from?

You think the Direct Gov website will be privvy to some random thugs rocking up to cause bother?

If Mersyeside/Manchester clubs had hooligans rocking up in the city im pretty sure you would read about it on here like considering news travels not just in the places you like to read it from.

so if I posted a thread about how everything was going to be peaceful we can just change your mind? Could have saved ourselves 30 pages here

 

[Blueclouds]

so if I posted a thread about how everything was going to be peaceful we can just change your mind? Could have saved ourselves 30 pages here

You are being silly now.

 

[Charro]

Well where else would I get information about possible upcoming social unrest from?

You think the Direct Gov website will be privvy to some random thugs rocking up to cause bother?

If Mersyeside/Manchester clubs had hooligans rocking up in the city im pretty sure you would read about it on here like considering news travels not just in the places you like to read it from.

Fair enough mate. Internet forums are the only place we can get info from, of course.

You’ve showed yourself up here. Your views are shaped by random people off the internet and the things they post.

It’s obvious by the things you’ve been posting but you’ve just confirmed it here.

Nice one.

 

[ForeverBlue92]

Fair enough mate. Internet forums are the only place we can get info from, of course.

You’ve showed yourself up here. Your views are shaped by random people off the internet and the things they post.

It’s obvious by the things you’ve been posting but you’ve just confirmed it here.

Nice one.

Ha ha oh my days you are something else lad.

Who said anything about it being the only place you can get info from? Im saying I have heard it from here from London based footie fans.

Go bore someone else - better yet tell me how did this protest get organised/people find out about it?

ON THE INTERNET!! lollollol