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[PaulPowersTash]

Yes he did, however, he just peddles his centrist ideals to the forefront at every opportunity, the bloke cant even have honest debate with his own reflection.

Presentation and splash of discipline.

I agree with you 100% I genuinely cannot stand him.
However, as we were debating he got the press and the media on side and the rest is history - so it can be done.

 

[PaulPowersTash]

Of course it needs money; the point is that it doesn’t need to be profitable (which is what you said). The Mail could go as woke as it liked if it was owned by someone with enough money to keep it going.

Just like the Guardian then?

 

[Tubey]

Ignoring the media and the supposed views of the public do all these make Labour unfit for office as individual events?

Secondly, which of these do you think most voters were taking in to the voting booth?

Thirdly, why were they taking these in to the voting booth and not Johnson's comments about foreigners or Muslims? Grenfell? Johnson defending Prince Andrew?

Consider the minority versus the majority.

The majority of this country are white-british, lower- to middle-class. Johnson is known as a wrong 'un, his comments are, sadly, to be expected. They aren't electoral issues unless the opposition are strong enough to make them stand out. The electoral impact of Windrush, for example, was clearly minimal. As was Grenfell, as it was deemed a wider field beyond the Tories for blame. The impact it has was towards ethnic minority votes where the Tories are traditionally weak anyway. The PM not laying into the monarchy is just expected.

Very little Johnson does wrong is of impact to his base - consider Theresa May attacking the triple lock on pensions and the impact that had on her electoral success as an example of what does impact the Tory base.

Whereas Labour are standing in front of the hammer and sickle, stubbornly and bewilderingly refusing to acknowledge common sense definitions of anti-semitism, taking a knee in support of an extremist movement, treating the public like idiots by taking part in stupid photo ops during a pandemic and so on. These are all things that the majority will take electoral issue with, particularly Labour's support base.

When Biden took on Trump, he gave him the rope to hang himself. Realising Trump's response to COVID had killed him, he simply avoided own goals. Labour don't do that - they create numerous own goals of their own to compensate.

 

[PaulPowersTash]

Probably.

Are you made up with that are you?

Well done.

My pleasure Comrade.

 

[dead_soft]

Consider the minority versus the majority.

The majority of this country are white-british, lower- to middle-class. Johnson is known as a wrong 'un, his comments are, sadly, to be expected. They aren't electoral issues unless the opposition are strong enough to make them stand out. The electoral impact of Windrush, for example, was clearly minimal. As was Grenfell, as it was deemed a wider field beyond the Tories for blame. The impact it has was towards ethnic minority votes where the Tories are traditionally weak anyway. The PM not laying into the monarchy is just expected.

Very little Johnson does wrong is of impact to his base - consider Theresa May attacking the triple lock on pensions and the impact that had on her electoral success as an example of what does impact the Tory base.

Whereas Labour are standing in front of the hammer and sickle, stubbornly and bewilderingly refusing to acknowledge common sense definitions of anti-semitism, taking a knee in support of an extremist movement, treating the public like idiots by taking part in stupid photo ops during a pandemic and so on. These are all things that the majority will take electoral issue with, particularly Labour's support base.

When Biden took on Trump, he gave him the rope to hang himself. Realising Trump's response to COVID had killed him, he simply avoided own goals. Labour don't do that - they create numerous own goals of their own to compensate.

Where do you think this environment or attitude comes from?

 

[orchard]

Where do you think this environment or attitude comes from?

University of lyfe

 

[dead_soft]

University of lyfe

Seems like a lot of the 'normal people don't like being called racist' people have pretty low opinions of what normal people will justify or accept and that this is completely on them rather than any external forces.

 

[mill]

Consider the minority versus the majority.

The majority of this country are white-british, lower- to middle-class. Johnson is known as a wrong 'un, his comments are, sadly, to be expected. They aren't electoral issues unless the opposition are strong enough to make them stand out. The electoral impact of Windrush, for example, was clearly minimal. As was Grenfell, as it was deemed a wider field beyond the Tories for blame. The impact it has was towards ethnic minority votes where the Tories are traditionally weak anyway. The PM not laying into the monarchy is just expected.

Very little Johnson does wrong is of impact to his base - consider Theresa May attacking the triple lock on pensions and the impact that had on her electoral success as an example of what does impact the Tory base.

Whereas Labour are standing in front of the hammer and sickle, stubbornly and bewilderingly refusing to acknowledge common sense definitions of anti-semitism, taking a knee in support of an extremist movement, treating the public like idiots by taking part in stupid photo ops during a pandemic and so on. These are all things that the majority will take electoral issue with, particularly Labour's support base.

When Biden took on Trump, he gave him the rope to hang himself. Realising Trump's response to COVID had killed him, he simply avoided own goals. Labour don't do that - they create numerous own goals of their own to compensate.

That movement with extreme views such as ‘social equality’ and ‘an end to institutional racism’.

 

[Prevenger17]

That movement with extreme views such as ‘social equality’ and ‘an end to institutional racism’.

Tubey thinks people need to quietly accept that violent institutional deaths are a culmination of a logical sequence of cause and effect and that grieving family and community members just need to suck it up. Hard to argue really

 

[PaulPowersTash]

That movement with extreme views such as ‘social equality’ and ‘an end to institutional racism’.

Nobody is against views and policies such as that. What they are against is how they are implemented.
Taxing the middle class until the pips squeak to enable social equality and the decolonisation of street names
to end institutional racism are not exactly vote winners on the whole.

 

[Aberblue]

You think labour’s punitive tax rates were aimed at the working class?

When I started full time work in the mid 1970s, income tax started at 35%, and that on very modest incomes indeed. It was very common to hear people say "no point in doing overtime, it'll all go in tax".

 

[dwightschrute]

Tubey thinks people need to quietly accept that violent institutional deaths are a culmination of a logical sequence of cause and effect and that grieving family and community members just need to suck it up. Hard to argue really

Yet another post by the woke Islington marxists here

And this Sir, is why I will be voting Tory/leopard eating face party. Their policies just happen to inflate my house price year on year but thats a coincidence, really its because I'm sick of you woke anti racists The Spectator told me so

 

[coollino]

Johnson definitely benefits some kind of 'Oh, Boris!' factor if he does something he shouldn't.

I can't really describe what I mean but I can't think of anyone else who has that kind of aura.

 

[JimmyJeffers]

Johnson definitely benefits some kind of 'Oh, Boris!' factor if he does something he shouldn't.

I can't really describe what I mean but I can't think of anyone else who has that kind of aura.

He belongs in a 1980s sitcom.
Horrible human

 

[dead_soft]

Nobody is against views and policies such as that. What they are against is how they are implemented.
Taxing the middle class until the pips squeak to enable social equality and the decolonisation of street names
to end institutional racism are not exactly vote winners on the whole.

You make absolutely no sense. You're definitely one of those who held up a 'Thank You Sheikh Mansour' banner