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[JimmyJeffers]

2% ‘too woke lol

 

[roydo]

You are going to get called far left as soon as you come up with any policies that would change people's lives for the better. Just ignore it and persuade people that you are right. Thatcher didn't transform the country by caring what anyone thought of her.

True. But what ever way you cut and paste it, her initial message was one that resonated with normal folk. Who were really really fed up.

I was there. I reckon many who now write the mood music, wernt.

 

[Connor]

2% ‘too woke lol

People are *mental*

 

[dannyboy]

True. But what ever way you cut and paste it, her initial message was one that resonated with normal folk. Who were really really fed up.

I was there. I reckon many who now write the mood music, wernt.

Definitely and that's what Labour need to do now. Starmer's interview summed it all up. Rambled on about needing to change but completely failed to articulate any way in which that will happen.

 

[Tubey]

Two quite simple things he could do, which would resonate with millions, post pandemic.

#1. Say he would ring fence the entire covid spend, remove it from the Govt accounts, and pay it back over decades, to allow future administrations to function in a more normal way.

#2. Say he would instruct HMRC to not pile into the recipients of the self employed support scheme, tax notwithstanding, to prove they should have had it. The questions they asked were so ambiguous to qualify, means they are equally as easy to disprove.

The way the Tories treated the likes of pubs throughout the pandemic was an open goal for Starmer too, but he failed to pursue it. A lot of people were angry with Johnson around things like not declaring an official lockdown and just 'advising' pubs to shut instead, meaning insurance didn't have to pay out for ages.

 

[dead_soft]

I think extremism is a scale. It depends where you are on the scale that determines if someone else is extremist. It’s all relative.

Well yes, a socialist would be seen as an extremist to a fascist. Doesn’t make them right.

 

[Aberblue]

Welsh Labour have done well, thought Plaid would do better

The Liberal Democrats are dead and buried in Wales. Most of their candidates failed to reach 1000 votes in the constituencies.

 

[NilSatisOptimum]

Welsh Labour having a very positive Senned election... No surprise with Drakeford at the helm serious politician and intellectual. Some good swings even in seats not gained... Take note Starmer. The grass is greener and on the left in the land of our fathers.

 

[Aberblue]

Welsh Labour having a very positive Senned election... No surprise with Drakeford at the helm serious politician and intellectual. Some good swings even in seats not gained... Take note Starmer. The grass is greener and on the left in the land of our fathers.

Interestingly, most of the UKIP/Brexit Party vote seems to have gone to Labour in Wales, unlike the situation in England where the Conservatives have gained most of those voters.

 

[tsubaki]

Interestingly, most of the UKIP/Brexit Party vote seems to have gone to Labour in Wales, unlike the situation in England where the Conservatives have gained most of those voters.

One would imagine its because Drakeford is seen as competent, independently-minded and fair - the improvement over Carwyn Jones is considerable. Plus the Welsh Tories (in the Senedd at least) are a shower.

 

[Aberblue]

One would imagine its because Drakeford is seen as competent, independently-minded and fair - the improvement over Carwyn Jones is considerable. Plus the Welsh Tories (in the Senedd at least) are a shower.

Drakeford is Labour's strongest asset in Wales. Ironic, really, because 18 months ago he was seen as something of a nonentity.

To be fair, Carwyn Jones was quite highly regarded as First Minister.

 

[NilSatisOptimum]

Interestingly, most of the UKIP/Brexit Party vote seems to have gone to Labour in Wales, unlike the situation in England where the Conservatives have gained most of those voters.

Welsh Labour do listen democratically and has paid dividends. Some stunning results in so called marginals been made safe seats by Labour, the blue Tory wave has been firmly been turned off even in North East Labour has shored up its vote.

 

[NilSatisOptimum]

Drakeford is Labour's strongest asset in Wales. Ironic, really, because 18 months ago he was seen as something of a nonentity.

To be fair, Carwyn Jones was quite highly regarded as First Minister.

Carl Sergeant is played out in the nationals, they don't mention his son is Welsh Labour...

 

[davek]

It'll be ok once the LP get rid of Corbyn and go with a serious and forensic statesman-like figure and pillar of the establishment.

 

[davek]

Nobhead.