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Well we 100% wont get it under the Tories.

We will only get a chance under starmer though. Tories wont move from FPTP as its allowed them to stay in power. There is enough push within Labour for reform.

Get that. Then we can talk about getting a decent left party as Labour has gone.
...just like the reform off the Lords that Starmer was passionate about...now ditched...
 
It's telling how quiet Pete is in this thread. He doesn't need to troll anymore as Dave is saving him the bother.
BTW everyone, if you want a rule of thumb measurement of how radical Starmer will be just remember that @Bruce Wayne here - a coporate head and a Lib Dem voter copper-fastened to market liberalism - is fully on board with him.

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BTW everyone, if you want a rule of thumb measurement of how radical Starmer will be just remember that @Bruce Wayne here - a coporate head and a Lib Dem voter copper-fastened to market liberalism - is fully on board with him.

Let
That
Sink
In
You seem to be under the illusion I wear Starmer pyjamas to bed Dave, when the reality is I don't really have a clue about his policies. All I know is that he's not the Tories and is the only realistic alternative to them.
 
If you can afford it, you would be stupid to not use BUPA.
I wouldn't decry anyone using it in this age when the NHS has been hollowed out. But Streeting is hardly a figurehead for any election promise that NHS the won't be further privatised.

Plus the fact he;s a horrible 'kin right wing get.
 
You seem to be under the illusion I wear Starmer pyjamas to bed Dave, when the reality is I don't really have a clue about his policies. All I know is that he's not the Tories and is the only realistic alternative to them.
...well that pretty much rules you out of the thread surely...I mean if you can't be arsed to read what this feller is about to roll out what good are you commenting here...
 
I wouldn't decry anyone using it in this age when the NHS has been hollowed out. But Streeting is hardly a figurehead for any election promise that NHS the won't be further privatised.

Plus the fact he;s a horrible 'kin right wing get.
I mean a wider discussion for sure, but I just checked and currently im paying more for Everton Season Tickets then I would for Private Medical care.

Which do you think would be better for my health?

I have no idea who this Streeting is, to be honest, I dont really pay a great deal of interest in polictics.

I just know what my Momma taught me, vote Labour.
 
...well that pretty much rules you out of the thread surely...I mean if you can't be arsed to read what this feller is about to roll out what good are you commenting here...
As I've mentioned previously, I have a lot going on in my private life right now, so current affairs seem unimportant. Hopefully, by the time of the election, things won't be quite so chaotic at home.
 
I mean a wider discussion for sure, but I just checked and currently im paying more for Everton Season Tickets then I would for Private Medical care.

Which do you think would be better for my health?

I have no idea who this Streeting is, to be honest, I dont really pay a great deal of interest in polictics.

I just know what my Momma taught me, vote Labour.
You really need to be aware of these people. They've taken the LP so far to the right they make the Blair Years look like the October Revolution.

I'm not kidding when I say that the LP doesn't exist anymore. It doesn't.
 
...just like the reform off the Lords that Starmer was passionate about...now ditched...

So given the position we are in at this very moment, what is the realistic alternative way to get this lot out, without voting Labour?

Not voting at all? That helps the Tories
Voting for the Tories? Well, you know.
Voting for a party that has no chance of doing anything - That helps the Tories.
 
We all know that in two years time - one year into a Starmer Government - there'll be a thread on here with people demanding his and 'Labour's' removal from office.

Sure as night follows day this ends in calamity because what some people believe is possible from Starmer's time in office is never going to happen.

People KNOW this will happen.

don't take it too hard Dave... #safe in the arms of Sunak.
 
So given the position we are in at this very moment, what is the realistic alternative way to get this lot out, without voting Labour?

Not voting at all? That helps the Tories
Voting for the Tories? Well, you know.
Voting for a party that has no chance of doing anything - That helps the Tories.
You're missing the point - voting 'Labour' gets you what you get rid of.

If you doubt that then hand me a list of Starmer's policies that will be a clear deviation from what the Tories are offering.
 
You're missing the point - voting 'Labour' gets you what you get rid of.

If you doubt that then hand me a list of Starmer's policies that will be a clear deviation from what the Tories are offering.
We arent voting for Policies, Policies mean very little, nobody ever does what they say they will.

"We" are voting to get rid of the cesspit rancid Tory Party.

Yeah, yeah, "Nu-Tory, Tory-Lite", but as ive said in the past, its not full fat Tory, so it will have to do.

Whats the alternative Dave?

Throw your vote down the cliff by voting for the Greens?

You may as well vote Tory, you probably will.
 
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