evilwebby
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Which is pretty much true.
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Which is pretty much true.
NilSatisOptimum
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Which is not Brexit as Farage has constantly reiterated on his Brexit radio show everyday ever since Mays deal with blond wig came to parliament..
evilwebby
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You say potato, I say potarto..
NilSatisOptimum
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Don't care if you call them spuds, but I know many Brexiteer will be angry at Farage, I've heard them call in night after night... Being a Labour supporter more than happy with this U-turn...
NilSatisOptimum
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This move is because of the Libs Greens and Plaid pact...
....can’t see how any Labour supporter can be happy that the Brexit Party will not contest Conservative seats. Surely Labour need to win Conservative held seats and their best chance was the BP taking Tory vote. Conservatives now have more of a free run in their existing seats.
Momentum Labour being outmanoeuvred everywhere is hardly surprising.
summerisle
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Four days ago ; hypocrisy personified.
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Farage standing down candidates is definitely helpful to Boris, especially in tory lib dem marginals. But it's not a total game changer in itself.
But the hidden message farage has sent out is that a vote for him could inadvertently brexit. It's hard to put an accurate gauge on just how big a factor that will be, but my instinct is that it will help push Boris over the line to a majority.
Lots of tory minded people who were thinking brexit party might now return to the tories. A lot of those who will still vote brexit party probably would never have voted tory under any circumstances in any case.
But the hidden message farage has sent out is that a vote for him could inadvertently brexit. It's hard to put an accurate gauge on just how big a factor that will be, but my instinct is that it will help push Boris over the line to a majority.
Lots of tory minded people who were thinking brexit party might now return to the tories. A lot of those who will still vote brexit party probably would never have voted tory under any circumstances in any case.
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It is depressing if you ask me.
Unless it galvanised progressive, anti Brexit parties to do the sensible thing and react in kind.
Labour and Liberals to stand aside in constituencies where one or t' other is best placed to win the seat.
Thats a pretty fair assessment. Lots of things can be true at once.
1) This is not ideal for Labour (and worse for Lib Dems).
2) It's not as damaging as is widely being suggested
3) The key difficulties presented would be if an agreement was made in key Labour/Con leave marginals.
As it happens I would ay the Tories have been very proficient at eating up the BXP vote share. They were down at 6% with one poll. It may well be that this is higher in Tory areas too. It felt Farage was really struggling to make his way through with any traction and has had to accept defeat and strategically withdraw troops.
There are always opportunities that can come for this for Labour to
ne of Farage's great gifts was keeping enough distance between himself and the Conservatives to appeal to voters in the midlands/north who hated the Tories but liked elements of their message. That conflation could play badly for him. Likewise it is likely to strengthen in the minds of voters that a stitch is happening, particularly around the NHS which could freak people. Finally Labour could really start to pressure the Lib Dem leadership and voters, that the only way to stop hard Brexit is now to vote Labour. So good opportunity to squeeze the Lib Dems further.All 3 of the above could play well for Labour if positioned correctly. Opening a new front on workers rights makes a lot of sense too. 2 days ago garage was saying this deal isn't even Brexit, so there is a lot of scope to be critical of the Brexit Deal.
As for Johnson he has to be careful. Any rumours of giving something back for Farage will be tricky for him. If he's smart he puts distance between them again. Maybe hardens on No Deal and says that he is the man who has taken that off the table. He won't want to beset as Trump/Putins puppy.
So an interesting move, but given his polling data and the continued squeeze hardly a surprise. I didn't think brexit would feature so much at the election and again Labour can still make gains from this. Not great for the lib Dems though.
It's not going to happen mate. The Lib Dems are hear to defeat Labour. They are not going to do us any favours. They will prop up a Tory government, and in all likelihood sell a PV's down the river in order to do so.
If you want to stop this stitch up you have got to vote for Labour. That has to be the message now.
Oh I know that, catcher.
And with a bit of luck the SNP surge will take Swindon out in East Dumbartonshire.
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