Current Affairs The General Election

[Jebus_lives]

Haven't looked at this forum for a week or so. Did any of "the 30" ever declare themselves?

Well one was me and I most certainly didn't vote Tory. I think you can probably guess the rest and a few 'quiet Tories'

 

[davek]

Well one was me and I most certainly didn't vote Tory. I think you can probably guess the rest and a few 'quiet Tories'

Well that's honest of you. So there's you and pete the Tory.

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[Bruce Wayne]

Well that's honest of you. So there's you and pete the Tory.

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I voted Lib Dem but am still a Tory apparently.

 

[davek]

I voted Lib Dem but am still a Tory apparently.

That's as terrible thing to say about anyone. I mean, it's the lowest of the low to be called a Tory.

 

[roydo]

Well that's honest of you. So there's you and pete the Tory.

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Who voted Tory? I said a while ago I did. Not for any other reason that it was the only way I could see that this flaming Brexit nonsense could start to get some sort of resolution.

Couldnt vote for Corbyns fudge. Neither Lib Dem just binning a democratic vote, (even though I voted remain), other choice was Green.

When all is said and done, it was pretty much a single issue election in the end. The Red Wall being borrowed is proof of that. Rightly or wrongly

 

[davek]

Who voted Tory? I said a while ago I did. Not for any other reason that it was the only way I could see that this flaming Brexit nonsense could start to get some sort of resolution.

Couldnt vote for Corbyns fudge. Neither Lib Dem just binning a democratic vote, (even though I voted remain), other choice was Green.

When all is said and done, it was pretty much a single issue election in the end. The Red Wall being borrowed is proof of that. Rightly or wrongly

Well you made your choice mate. It's a free country and all that.

Meanwhile the promises on minimum wage and workers' rights are dropped.

The Tories are for 5 years, not just Christmas.

 

[roydo]

Well you made your choice mate. It's a free country and all that.

Meanwhile the promises on minimum wage and workers' rights are dropped.

The Tories are for 5 years, not just Christmas.

Like I said, it was a single issue for me.

Time will tell I guess.

 

[dead_soft]

Like I said, it was a single issue for me.

Time will tell I guess.

What exactly do you think will get sorted by the Tories though?

 

[roydo]

What exactly do you think will get sorted by the Tories though?

I dunno mate. I didnt want to not vote, and explained how I came to my decision earlier. Not sure its anyone elses business really.

 

[Barry Rathbone]

It's not at all Pete. The Tories stood on an explicitly anti-referenda card, and the SNP stood on a ticket which said vote for us if you want a 2nd referendum.

The SNP have taken 85% of the seats, and the Tories have been greatly damaged.

She can call a referendum via the Scottish Parliament if she wishes. He doesn't have to recognise it and can ignore the will of the people (a little like the EU did with Greece) but he can't stop it happening.

If he has any sense, he's on the phone this morning to Sturgeon, promising to reverse the worst aspects of austerity, saying he will secure full market access from trade talks and assuring her she wants to remain part of the UK. He will also say, if she wants she can call a referendum. This attacking of the Scottish people and the right to a 2nd referendum has spectacularly failed for Johnson.

It's been a long night, but how many seats do they now have in Scotland, 5? It's pitiful. They have no right to speak for the people of Scotland and ought to listen.

Hardly their battle bus was anti brexit and their support came from a multi faceted base much of it utter odium for Corbyn and Johnson
The clear democratic vote on the issue put it to bed just a few years ago for better or worse the will of the scots was to abide by the democratic will of the union which in this case was to leave europe. Entirely undemocratic to abandon the wishes of the majority on something NOT dedicated as a choice between referendum or not

 

[The binman chronicles]

And?

Tony Blair won a 167 majority with 10.74m votes in 2001 and a 64 majority with 9.55m votes in 2005.

turnout, turnout, turnout.

The total vote figures don't really mean much at the end of the day. This election we had two polarising main candidates that drove each other to get more votes cast overall. In Blair's time the electorate that didn't vote were either sure he would get in anyhow so their vote didn't mean much or were happy with whatever the way the coin landed.

I'd expect the numbers to recede again once you lose leaders like Boris and Corbyn.

 

[dead_soft]

I dunno mate. I didnt want to not vote, and explained how I came to my decision earlier. Not sure its anyone elses business really.

It’s not I guess if you don’t wish to explain, I just don’t really see much that explains how the Tories will get Brexit done in any way that really works so would be interested in an alternative view.

 

[Joey66]

Well you made your choice mate. It's a free country and all that.

Meanwhile the promises on minimum wage and workers' rights are dropped.

The Tories are for 5 years, not just Christmas.

The way Labour are shaping after a catastrophic defeat, I'd make that ten years sadly -

 

[evilwebby]

Who voted Tory? I said a while ago I did. Not for any other reason that it was the only way I could see that this flaming Brexit nonsense could start to get some sort of resolution.

Couldnt vote for Corbyns fudge. Neither Lib Dem just binning a democratic vote, (even though I voted remain), other choice was Green.

When all is said and done, it was pretty much a single issue election in the end. The Red Wall being borrowed is proof of that. Rightly or wrongly

Basically anyone who doesn't answer a "how will you vote" poll or virtue-signals about "exercising their civic duties" votes Tory... a characteristic of conservatism is having confidence and coming to peace with in your own internal logic and reasoning without feeling the need to broadcast it or convince others misguided souls.

 

[peteblue]

That's as terrible thing to say about anyone. I mean, it's the lowest of the low to be called a Tory.

erm....