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[Goat]

Single parents, gig economy, charity sector. Etc etc. I know some very skilled professionals who earn nowhere near 30k and have very little opportunity to earn much more.

I worked crappy jobs all my working career, never saw anything close to 30k, my missus works 6 days a week, not even close to 30k, my daughter works 48 hours a week, yes you guessed it, again not even close to 30k a year, my mother has worked in the same place for 40 years, nowhere near 30k, my brother works for the NHS, so yep, not 30k.

I mean of course I know people who earn well above 30k, but I defo know more people who dont.

 

[zzr45]

if This imaginary apprentice knew how many issues he’d caused he’d be right annoyed.

 

[zzr45]

Mate, I hope that one day you lose your blindfold and can raise your head from your cloud of ignorance.

Mate, ignorance is pretending that Chomsky has anything worthwhile to say. Casts his net as wide as a TV psychic for bottom feeders to gobble up.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

You can earn £30k a year delivering parcels.

100 a day, 6 days a week, 52 weeks of the year would be there abouts.

1 hour sorting/loading, then 5 hours max out delivering.

Like I dont need £30k a year, and 100 a day is Christmas levels of busy for me, so I do about 75% of that on average, but thats my choice. Once we Get Brexit Done there will be tons of delivery jobs available I reckon.

(Its also a piece of cake).

Oh dear god

 

[Number_25]

Oh dear god

 

[Dharma]

You can earn £30k a year delivering parcels.

100 a day, 6 days a week, 52 weeks of the year would be there abouts.

1 hour sorting/loading, then 5 hours max out delivering.

Like I dont need £30k a year, and 100 a day is Christmas levels of busy for me, so I do about 75% of that on average, but thats my choice. Once we Get Brexit Done there will be tons of delivery jobs available I reckon.

(Its also a piece of cake).

Hook, line and sinker. Dominic would be proud.

 

[JimmyJeffers]

Mate, ignorance is pretending that Chomsky has anything worthwhile to say. Casts his net as wide as a TV psychic for bottom feeders to gobble up.

Disagree here. His books on manufacturing consent through mass media and failed states are as relevant today as they’ve ever been. Never read his stuff on linguistics to be fair.

 

[evilwebby]

Ultimately though, you’re propagating the myth of the working class lad who just wants to better himself, whereas I actually know the person I’m talking about, and know that not to be the case. If he wants to start earning £80k a year, he should start turning up to work on time and stop taking drugs the night before an early start.

Obviously I don't know the lad, but what people do with their money is their own business, and if he's happy with his level of income for his given level of dedication to his career then what's the problem? A lot of people can pr

Why can't he earn 30k a year?

This may sound incendiary, but I believe that anyone who works hard and applies themselves over the course of a 20-30 year career can earn far more that that, in any profession.

The lad, far from being duped, has his head very firmly screwed on.

He could work hard, earn a really good wage AND live in a fairer society where some slight tax increases for the top earners pay for our public services to be better. Not mutually exclusive.
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But people who earn more DO already contribute more as they have a larger taxeable income base.

The Left think in terms of increasing tax rates to increase tax revenue. The Right think in terms of increasing productivity which moves everyone up the payscale.

In the short run a tax hike will pull in more revenue. In the long run only increasingly your productivity and output will result in continual increases in tax revenue, and high taxation actually acts as a drag on that happening.

Again, perfectly possible to lower taxes AND improve public services if you take a long term view of things. Not mutually exclusive.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

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Ah yes, it's the liberals fault that Labour stunk the place out The remain vote was hugely disappointing, but lets not pretend there was any harmony in it, because there wasn't, and a major part of that was Labour's continual battle in trying to pull together the leave and remain factions of its base. It didn't manage that, and their leave supporters fled in droves.

 

[zzr45]

Hook, line and sinker. Dominic would be proud.

Dominic who?

I love this narrative. ‘You don’t subscribe to the same narrative as me so you must be brainwashed!’

Yeah, sure mate.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

Dominic who?

I love this narrative. ‘You don’t subscribe to the same narrative as me so you must be brainwashed!’

Yeah, sure mate.

When you're using Tory HQ catchphrases (with capitalisation and all) it's not a great look though tbh.

 

[Bungle]

Someone cocked up the quoting of posts so I'm not sure who I'm meant to have a go at here.

 

[zzr45]

When you're using Tory HQ catchphrases (with capitalisation and all) it's not a great look though tbh.

Let’s be honest though Bruce, for all the intellectual nonsense spouted throughout this election, three simple words have won it..

 

[Bruce Wayne]

Let’s be honest though Bruce, for all the intellectual nonsense spouted throughout this election, three simple words have won it..

My theory is that politicians are such an objectionable bunch of toss pots that people are inclined to do anything that will result in them leaving us alone for a bit. It's like when you get doorstepped and bothered for 30 minutes and just take Watchtower to get rid of them.

 

[Lanolin]

Obviously I don't know the lad, but what people do with their money is their own business, and if he's happy with his level of income for his given level of dedication to his career then what's the problem? A lot of people can pr


He could work hard, earn a really good wage AND live in a fairer society where some slight tax increases for the top earners pay for our public services to be better. Not mutually exclusive.

But people who earn more DO already contribute more as they have a larger taxeable income base.

The Left think in terms of increasing tax rates to increase tax revenue. The Right think in terms of increasing productivity which moves everyone up the payscale.

In the short run a tax hike will pull in more revenue. In the long run only increasingly your productivity and output will result in continual increases in tax revenue, and high taxation actually acts as a drag on that happening.

Again, perfectly possible to lower taxes AND improve public services if you take a long term view of things. Not mutually exclusive.
[/QUOTE] There is no problem. I never said there was a problem with his level of income, you did. I was just laughing at the idea that the reason he doesn’t think high earners should be taxed more is because he thinks he’s going to be a high earner. It isn’t. It’s because he thinks high earners are somehow naturally better than him, and deserve to earn lots of money because they’re superior to him. He’s just going to accept his lot in life and try to improve theirs, because that’s the twisted logic that has somehow been ingrained into him.