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[Bruce Wayne]

FFS. Learn to quote properly.

 

[Goat]

FFS. Learn to quote properly.

Do something Bruce FFS.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

Do something Bruce FFS.

I'm stamping my feet but they don't appear to be listening.

 

[zzr45]

My theory is that politicians are such an objectionable bunch of toss pots that people are inclined to do anything that will result in them leaving us alone for a bit. It's like when you get doorstepped and bothered for 30 minutes and just take Watchtower to get rid of them.

It would be lovely to actually have a group that you didn’t cry in the shower after voting for.

There’s so much disenfranchisement from the main political parties that the first to actually speak to actual real, normal people will get in.

Sadly, it seems that only Boris seems to understand that.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

It would be lovely to actually have a group that you didn’t cry in the shower after voting for.

There’s so much disenfranchisement from the main political parties that the first to actually speak to actual real, normal people will get in.

Sadly, it seems that only Boris seems to understand that.

Suppose it might be relative, as I'm not sure Johnson speaks to/for real people at all. He came across terribly during the campaign and was equal parts evasive and aloof. I know the polls are an inexact science, but the approval ratings for both he and Corbyn were awful, as were things like trustworthiness ratings. If you were being hugely generous you'd say he might have been the best of a bad bunch, but it seems a great many voted Tory despite the huge character flaws in Johnson himself, so I'd be wary of attaching any significance to his role in proceedings.

 

[Bungle]

It would be lovely to actually have a group that you didn’t cry in the shower after voting for.

There’s so much disenfranchisement from the main political parties that the first to actually speak to actual real, normal people will get in.

Sadly, it seems that only Boris seems to understand that.

I was thinking about this earlier when I heard someone ranting about the election on the radio.

I reckon if someone came in and was brutally honest and showed a bit of humility, backed up by some realistic policies they'd absolutely walk it. Sadly I don't think such a politician exists and hasn't for a good while, hence we find ourselves the position we are.

Should be a law that says that if 6 months in power you haven't gone some way toward implementing 75% of what you promised in your manifesto then you get executed.

 

[zzr45]

Suppose it might be relative, as I'm not sure Johnson speaks to/for real people at all. He came across terribly during the campaign and was equal parts evasive and aloof. I know the polls are an inexact science, but the approval ratings for both he and Corbyn were awful, as were things like trustworthiness ratings. If you were being hugely generous you'd say he might have been the best of a bad bunch, but it seems a great many voted Tory despite the huge character flaws in Johnson himself, so I'd be wary of attaching any significance to his role in proceedings.

I don’t think he has just yet. I think Get Brexit Done spoke to people without knowing it. He has spoken about the need to move the party towards those that have voted for them. I think he gets that the nasty party needs to go. I couldn’t have seen Corbyn having done the same for example.

 

[roydo]

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Christ mate. It was a joke.

 

[Carl O'Ancelotti]

My theory is that politicians are such an objectionable bunch of toss pots that people are inclined to do anything that will result in them leaving us alone for a bit. It's like when you get doorstepped and bothered for 30 minutes and just take Watchtower to get rid of them.

My theory is that Mr & Mrs Average of Middletown preferred a cuddly looking blond chap with a posh accent to a plain grey looking one with a beard.

Image goes a long way in the mind of for the floating voter and always has done.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

I don’t think he has just yet. I think Get Brexit Done spoke to people without knowing it. He has spoken about the need to move the party towards those that have voted for them. I think he gets that the nasty party needs to go. I couldn’t have seen Corbyn having done the same for example.

Time will tell I suppose. In his time to date as Tory leaders he's been bloody awful, so it'd be quite the turnaround. You can but hope though I suppose.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

My theory is that Mr & Mrs Average of Middletown preferred a cuddly looking blond chap with a posh accent to a plain grey looking one with a beard.

Image goes a long way in the mind of for the floating voter and always has done.

For sure. Lots of research on how we expect leaders to look and sound. Indeed, even daft things like height play a part, which may have the discriminatory advantage of keeping Mark Francois from high office, but is hardly a good yardstick for choosing leaders.

 

[roydo]

Time will tell I suppose. In his time to date as Tory leaders he's been bloody awful, so it'd be quite the turnaround. You can but hope though I suppose.

Guess its how you measure it. Like I am not a huge fan of the bloke, but when all is said and done, a combination of factors have convinced swathes of traditional northern Labour supporters to back his vision.

Its now his job to make them votes stick in 4 or 5 years. Its a massive opportunity that he is partly responsible for. Dont think that critique is unreasonable.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

Guess its how you measure it. Like I am not a huge fan of the bloke, but when all is said and done, a combination of factors have convinced swathes of traditional northern Labour supporters to back his vision.

Its now his job to make them votes stick in 4 or 5 years. Its a massive opportunity that he is partly responsible for. Dont think that critique is unreasonable.

Indeed, as I said in the EU thread, there's no excuses for him (or those that backed him) now. He made huge promises with regards to Brexit, in the ease of striking new trade deals, the ease of transition, the extra money for the NHS and the generally bright future for the country. Plenty of people thought it was pie in the sky nonsense, but both he and the leave vote more broadly have to deliver now. Big job.

 

[roydo]

Indeed, as I said in the EU thread, there's no excuses for him (or those that backed him) now. He made huge promises with regards to Brexit, in the ease of striking new trade deals, the ease of transition, the extra money for the NHS and the generally bright future for the country. Plenty of people thought it was pie in the sky nonsense, but both he and the leave vote more broadly have to deliver now. Big job.

Well his critics call him out as an opportunist. Some opportunity he has been dealt. And some.

 

[paultheblue]

My theory is that Mr & Mrs Average of Middletown preferred a cuddly looking blond chap with a posh accent to a plain grey looking one with a beard.

Image goes a long way in the mind of for the floating voter and always has done.

Or to put it another way most of the country is occupied by morons.