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[Joey66]

If you type in " traditional " labour voter, the definition has been amended and simply says @Joey66

Someone who has more brains than Corbyn and Macdonnel put together see they are still in place to see that the party stays on the wastelands for years to come as for @ Bruce Wayne I see the remain vote did well and the Lib Dems are back in a mini bus lol

 

[Bruce Wayne]

No not at all being derogatory,its a simple fact that with the exception of a GE once in a while the day to day politics dont concern most people,obviously certain points catch attention,if you work in advice centres ans such then theres a need to keep up with policy and legislation,but most of the time its background noise

You could probably argue that for many, they're not that influenced either way. I mean you can look at the US and it's hard to imagine a bigger idiot in charge of the country, yet things have still ticked along largely as they always have. Obviously his actions will have had an impact on some people a great deal, so this only applies in an aggregate sense, but we can be lulled into thinking that political leaders have the power to turn a country into heaven or hell, as that's largely what they want us to think (usually in the sense that the opposition will send us to hell, and we'll send you to heaven). It's largely tinkering at the margins though for most people.

I mean I'm in Czech over Christmas, and average income there is about half what it is here, and yet the country is hardly a backwards hovel. It would take a pretty prolonged period of gross mismanagement to cause enormous damage.

 

[Joey66]

If you type in " traditional " labour voter, the definition has been amended and simply says @Joey66

I predicted everything spot on Corbyn un electable, and Brexitirs would win n the end and goodbye to the ones who tried to stop Brexit......

 

[Bruce Wayne]

Someone who has more brains than Corbyn and Macdonnel put together see they are still in place to see that the party stays on the wastelands for years to come as for @ Bruce Wayne I see the remain vote did well and the Lib Dems are back in a mini bus lol

Please tag properly Joseph

 

[Joey66]

Please tag properly Joseph

I did never worked.....like remain.....

 

[jaycee]

You could probably argue that for many, they're not that influenced either way. I mean you can look at the US and it's hard to imagine a bigger idiot in charge of the country, yet things have still ticked along largely as they always have. Obviously his actions will have had an impact on some people a great deal, so this only applies in an aggregate sense, but we can be lulled into thinking that political leaders have the power to turn a country into heaven or hell, as that's largely what they want us to think (usually in the sense that the opposition will send us to hell, and we'll send you to heaven). It's largely tinkering at the margins though for most people.

I mean I'm in Czech over Christmas, and average income there is about half what it is here, and yet the country is hardly a backwards hovel. It would take a pretty prolonged period of gross mismanagement to cause enormous damage.

I agree,I consider myself on the socialist side of the political arena,have worked voluntarily in an advice centre,so I got to see the effects that cuts had on the bottom of the scale,which they did a lot of harm to,for that reason I take an interest in the policies that will hit that section,most people have their own problems so thats down the scale in their concerns,it doesnt mean they dont care,as you say unless there is absolute chaos most political decisions dont change the majority of lives

 

[Dharma]

In full uniform too. Shocking.

 

[LouReedwalkonthewildside]

I'm stamping my feet but they don't appear to be listening.

Typical Liberal Democrat.

 

[Blues Harp]

In full uniform too. Shocking.

Indeed..wont be seeing twunts like him here in Liverpool.....pondlife.

 

[Dharma]

You could probably argue that for many, they're not that influenced either way. I mean you can look at the US and it's hard to imagine a bigger idiot in charge of the country, yet things have still ticked along largely as they always have. Obviously his actions will have had an impact on some people a great deal, so this only applies in an aggregate sense, but we can be lulled into thinking that political leaders have the power to turn a country into heaven or hell, as that's largely what they want us to think (usually in the sense that the opposition will send us to hell, and we'll send you to heaven). It's largely tinkering at the margins though for most people.

I mean I'm in Czech over Christmas, and average income there is about half what it is here, and yet the country is hardly a backwards hovel. It would take a pretty prolonged period of gross mismanagement to cause enormous damage.

Sounds lovely, these places with EU membership generaly are. That may be the crucial difference.

 

[zzr45]

What did it say to you mate? Genuinely interested.

As someone who votes Remain and voted Labour in this election in the hope of a second referendum, very little. Clearly to others who could be wooed to vote Tory on just the strength of that - a lot.

 

[JammyP]

And with PR, what would be happening today? Trouble is the party in power (like Labour under Tony Blair) will never act to get rid of the system which brought it to power. But like Thatcher in the 80's there is every chance of dramatic change being brought about by a party on one side of the divide where more people voted the other way. Democracy it isn't. Yet

 

[COYBL25]

Please tag properly Joseph

He`s getting frisky again, do you have any rubber bullets handy ?

 

[JammyP]

And with PR, what would be happening today? Trouble is the party in power (like Labour under Tony Blair) will never act to get rid of the system which brought it to power. But like Thatcher in the 80's there is every chance of dramatic change being brought about by a party on one side of the divide where more people voted the other way. Democracy it isn't. Yet

Seats, percentages of votes and relative swings cast tell very different tales.

Results of the 2019 General Election

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[Deleted member 28206]

As @Connor pointed out, at least we can see through the Tory lies. Well done Liverpool.