Current Affairs The General Election

[Cardano]

It’s not always a choice whether to consume it though is it? There are huge swathes of the population who have no interest in politics, but every time they turn the tv on or see the papers in the supermarket they hear people talk about ‘boris’ like he’s one of the lads and see people saying Jeremy Corbyn is anti Semitic. It adds up.

Talk to anyone who’s not political about Jeremy Corbyn and they’ll all say exactly the same things. The things that the media want them to say.

Yeah that’s largely what I was thinking in my other post when I said people are probably much more exposed to multiple forms of media these days.

I don’t doubt for a second by the way that the general impression among the public that Corbyn is an actual anti-Semite (an absurd notion) is he result of a huge campaign by the media.

 

[Blues Harp]

...you’re right, I’ve not met Ian Byrne, but I did send him an e-mail and he was good enough to respond saying he had apologised for the tweet. I don’t dislike the fella, my point is Labour are selecting too many individuals for high-office who‘s background is TU. it’s a very narrow approach, they all talk the same talk.

Labour needs intellect rather than clones.

And then, how do you explain messrs johnson, Raab, Liz Truss, Patel, McVey.......? High intellect? Come on, mate, spot the brain cell between them.

 

[OnlyBlueWillDo]

Are you honestly suggesting that public opinion isn’t massively influenced by the media? Like, as a serious point? I don’t even know where to start with that.

Massively influenced?, I'd say it's a massive brainwashing campaign is what I'm seeing from the Tories and Tory supporting media whose owners are billionaires donating to the Tory party to keep them in power.

The lies and fake news the Tories have peddled this election has been gaming changingly disgusting and without morals.

 

[roydo]

It’s not always a choice whether to consume it though is it? There are huge swathes of the population who have no interest in politics, but every time they turn the tv on or see the papers in the supermarket they hear people talk about ‘boris’ like he’s one of the lads and see people saying Jeremy Corbyn is anti Semitic. It adds up.

Talk to anyone who’s not political about Jeremy Corbyn and they’ll all say exactly the same things. The things that the media want them to say.

Well if I was in the Labour Party power brokers, I would suggest that instead of making the assumption that "The Media" meant we didnt win, and then all violently agree that we are right and everyone else is wrong/stupid, perhaps actually ask folk in Burnley and the NE why they turned off Labour.

Johnson is already saying thanks for being loaned their votes, and quite nicely saying he will do his best to repay their gift.

It does a huge disservice to people to suggest that they only voted one way or another cos of what they read.

 

[zzr45]

Well if I was in the Labour Party power brokers, I would suggest that instead of making the assumption that "The Media" meant we didnt win, and then all violently agree that we are right and everyone else is wrong/stupid, perhaps actually ask folk in Burnley and the NE why they turned off Labour.

Johnson is already saying thanks for being loaned their votes, and quite nicely saying he will do his best to repay their gift.

It does a huge disservice to people to suggest that they only voted one way or another cos of what they read.

Well it couldn’t possibly be because people didn’t like Corbyn or his politics could it?

 

[Lanolin]

Well if I was in the Labour Party power brokers, I would suggest that instead of making the assumption that "The Media" meant we didnt win, and then all violently agree that we are right and everyone else is wrong/stupid, perhaps actually ask folk in Burnley and the NE why they turned off Labour.

Johnson is already saying thanks for being loaned their votes, and quite nicely saying he will do his best to repay their gift.

It does a huge disservice to people to suggest that they only voted one way or another cos of what they read.

I suppose it’s a good job I didn’t suggest that then isn’t it? In fact, you’re doing a huge disservice to me by suggesting that I did.

I’m also not suggesting that the media is the reason labour didn’t win the election. Again, I haven’t even vaguely suggested that.

What I am suggesting, is that thinking the media doesn’t hugely influence people’s opinions is so incredibly naive that I can’t believe anyone would think it. But you do, which probably explains a lot.

 

[roydo]

Well it couldn’t possibly be because people didn’t like Corbyn or his politics could it?

Deffo the media. Apparently. Bewilders me.

 

[roydo]

What I am suggesting, is that thinking the media doesn’t hugely influence people’s opinions is so incredibly naive that I can’t believe anyone would think it. But you do, which probably explains a lot.

No, I dont think the media "Hugely" influences peoples opinion. I think its inane insulting and naive to think they do. And what explains a lot?

 

[Billysgingham.]

Just left my house for the first time today and finding it hard to look anyone in the eye because they are all (probably) tories. This is horrible.

get a grip lad.

 

[zzr45]

No, I dont think the media "Hugely" influences peoples opinion. I think its inane insulting and naive to think they do. And what explains a lot?

The thing is the same media that discussed Corbyn’s flaws is the same one that brought up Johnson’s offspring, affair with Acuri and hiding in a fridge.

 

[Minimeister]

No, I dont think the media "Hugely" influences peoples opinion. I think its inane insulting and naive to think they do. And what explains a lot?

Crikey.

 

[roydo]

Crikey.

When was the last time you were influenced, politically, by sommet you read in a newspaper? Honestly.

 

[DanEFC92]

 

[dholliday]

...I think Reeves would be a choice on merit

i think @Blue 1 destroyed that argument.

 

[longers]

It’s not always a choice whether to consume it though is it? There are huge swathes of the population who have no interest in politics, but every time they turn the tv on or see the papers in the supermarket they hear people talk about ‘boris’ like he’s one of the lads and see people saying Jeremy Corbyn is anti Semitic. It adds up.

Talk to anyone who’s not political about Jeremy Corbyn and they’ll all say exactly the same things. The things that the media want them to say.

Nailed it imo, it's the people who are not that politically engaged who it effects the most. I have friends who pay no attention to politics whatsoever other than when election time comes around. I wouldn't class any of them as consumers of right wing media but if you mention Corbyn to them they will bring up the usual right wing media talking points such as 'Isn't he 'Anti Semitic ?', "Doesn't he sympathise with Terrorists ?', 'Won't he bankrupt the country ?'... They don't necessarily believe the claims as they are distrustful of the media but it's a sign of how casual consumption of the media can influence how you perceive someone.

Look at the Mail Online, it pulls in something like 15 million different visitors every day, millions of them will not be interested in politics and will just be there for the celebrity articles, sport etc but all that time they are on the site they are probably being exposed to the daily negative headlines about Corybn even if they don't read the articles.

Whether Corbyn deserves the negative headlines is another topic altogether and not really relevant, the fact is the media has and always will influence how portions of the public vote. Propaganda exists because it works.