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[gonetomorrow]

...I think Reeves would be a choice on merit, but I also think it’s time for Labour to have a female lead. I‘m sure Johnson would be more comfortable facing a bloke across the despatch box. Highly intellectual, she’d have the nous to stand up to him and her economics background is a real bonus.

Sadly, it won’t happen because she‘s not a Corbynist.

The next leader will probably be another lefty, thereby consigning Labour to the museum of politics.

 

[zzr45]

Disagree entirely. You ever read any of his books?

I’ve tried to get into bits but it seems so pretentious to me.

I also had to study one of his Linguistic studies at A/S Level English which I’ve never quite forgiven him for.

 

[Jebus_lives]

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Do you ever look at that and think 'this feels like the union is becoming less united'

 

[Lanolin]

Metro beats both of them. Telegraph is circa 300,000. Actually a distant 7th or 6th.

Lob the Mail and the rag together, its still about 3m all told. Its a very convenient fig leaf to use, the reality is somewhat different.

Are you honestly suggesting that public opinion isn’t massively influenced by the media? Like, as a serious point? I don’t even know where to start with that.

 

[Cardano]

Are you honestly suggesting that public opinion isn’t massively influenced by the media? Like, as a serious point? I don’t even know where to start with that.

I don’t have a settled view on this but I know that a good few years back there was a huge academic study into this question and it came to the conclusion that people tend to choose and consume media that reflect their pre-held beliefs, rather than the other way around.

 

[roydo]

Are you honestly suggesting that public opinion isn’t massively influenced by the media? Like, as a serious point? I don’t even know where to start with that.

There is media and there is media. Obviously, some media, (ads being the most obvious) do seek to alter behaviour. I am far from convinced that "media" influences people to the degree that some like to hide behind. I think they reflect it, politically anyrate.

 

[Eggs]

The next leader will probably be another lefty, thereby consigning Labour to the museum of politics.

....sadly, I agree. Saying that, if it’s somebody well rounded with high intellect it will at least be a step in the right direction. Unfortunately, I’m not sure I’d can identify any of Corbynists with those attributes.

 

[Cardano]

I don’t have a settled view on this but I know that a good few years back there was a huge academic study into this question and it came to the conclusion that people tend to choose and consume media that reflect their pre-held beliefs, rather than the other way around.

Having said that, this was long before the world of the internet and multitudes of different media.

I would imagine that people are significantly more exposed to multiple forms of media than back then, and therefore maybe more likely to be influenced.

 

[arminisgod]

You need to explain why towns that have voted labour for 100 years and have no ‘middle class’ to be ‘robbed’ from have suddenly voted Conservative.

Middle class has turned into working class

 

[Deulofeumygod]

Just left my house for the first time today and finding it hard to look anyone in the eye because they are all (probably) tories. This is horrible.

 

[OnlyBlueWillDo]

Waiting list times the worst they've ever been. It's almost like those figures were kept from the public until today.

"Get Brexit Done..." is all that matters I'm afraid.

41k food parcels given out at foodbanks in 2010, 1.6m given out last year, but that doesn't matter to most folk, "Get Brexit Done...".

 

[roydo]

Just left my house for the first time today and finding it hard to look anyone in the eye because they are all (probably) tories. This is horrible.

More likely cos its pitch dark.

 

[Deulofeumygod]

More likely cos its pitch dark.

ha. That too.

 

[Lanolin]

I don’t have a settled view on this but I know that a good few years back there was a huge academic study into this question and it came to the conclusion that people tend to choose and consume media that reflect their pre-held beliefs, rather than the other way around.

There is media and there is media. Obviously, some media, (ads being the most obvious) do seek to alter behaviour. I am far from convinced that "media" influences people to the degree that some like to hide behind. I think they reflect it, politically anyrate.

It’s not always a choice whether to consume it though is it? There are huge swathes of the population who have no interest in politics, but every time they turn the tv on or see the papers in the supermarket they hear people talk about ‘boris’ like he’s one of the lads and see people saying Jeremy Corbyn is anti Semitic. It adds up.

Talk to anyone who’s not political about Jeremy Corbyn and they’ll all say exactly the same things. The things that the media want them to say.

 

[OnlyBlueWillDo]

What are the 2 largest papers by circulation mate?

The Sun must be one of them, and that paper is full from top to bottom of Tory propaganda, bought by the working classes.