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[Blues Harp]

Absolutely pathetic this.

The fella has been a key part in a major foodbank that is keeping people alive in this city.

He had nothing to do with Momentum, and has apologised as I have previously pointed out for his remarks about the club. I bet Eggs has never met him personally and is motivated by his dislike of tu reps and shop stewards.

 

[Connor]

He had nothing to do with Momentum, and has apologised as I have previously pointed out for his remarks about the club. I bet Eggs has never met him personally and is motivated by his dislike of tu reps and shop stewards.

"No values. No decency."

Just ridiculous.

 

[arminisgod]

hopefully those types will all be dead in 5 yrs

You are living in la la land if you think that's the issue.

The tories have turned into the working class party because the working class are now very different to what they used to be

 

[dholliday]

hopefully those types will all be dead in 5 yrs

ffs...this is just nasty.

this is the reason why Labour got crushed...who is the nasty party again?

 

[Tubey]

ffs...this is just nasty.

this is the reason why Labour got crushed...who is the nasty party again?

A gentler, kinder politics.

 

[longers]

ffs...this is just nasty.

this is the reason why Labour got crushed...who is the nasty party again?

it really isnt the reason, such sentiment exists on both sides. Brexit and Corbyn are the overriding reasons, not lefties being too mean.

 

[Lanolin]

You are living in la la land if you think that's the issue.

The tories have turned into the working class party because the working class are now very different to what they used to be

The idea that the tories don't appeal to the working classes is bizarre. Who is it that you think is buying the biggest selling paper in the UK? It's not the bourgeois elite. The working class is full of racists and bigots. Little Alf Garnetts who hate immigration and believe that anybody who doesn't work as hard as them is a scrounger, they're the lifeblood of the tories.

 

[dholliday]

it really isnt the reason, such sentiment exists on both sides. Brexit is the overriding reason, not lefties being too mean.

Brexit is one reason.

And wishing older people die off and younger people come of age to improve Labour's chances is the sole preserve of nasty cultish leftists.

 

[dholliday]

A gentler, kinder politics.

i saw one of the clique threaten to beat you up last night.

good for you to keep going.

i saw this comment on the graun, nailed on i reckon:

People are turned off by this endless negativity from the left, and talk of never ending strife, fighting and resistance. Leftists who talk who endlessly about the difficulties in the country, while ignoring all the good things are depressing to be around. Recognise that Johnson won in part because non-politicos like his optimism, humour, cheerfulness and positivity. A good starting point for the left would to drop this aggressive hate filled tone and narrative.

 

[dholliday]

The working class is full of racists and bigots. Little Alf Garnetts who hate immigration and believe that anybody who doesn't work as hard as them is a scrounger, they're the lifeblood of the tories.

and another one...

 

[arminisgod]

Tories on TV all over the place trying to say Labour's policies are not wanted by the public, utter nonsense and spin again.

Corbyn and Brexit were responsible for 95% of this swing from Labour to the Tories, Labour can win an election with a manifesto like that with a different leader.

Where is the evidence for that?

 

[Eggs]

He had nothing to do with Momentum, and has apologised as I have previously pointed out for his remarks about the club. I bet Eggs has never met him personally and is motivated by his dislike of tu reps and shop stewards.

...you’re right, I’ve not met Ian Byrne, but I did send him an e-mail and he was good enough to respond saying he had apologised for the tweet. I don’t dislike the fella, my point is Labour are selecting too many individuals for high-office who‘s background is TU. it’s a very narrow approach, they all talk the same talk.

Labour needs intellect rather than clones.

 

[Lanolin]

...you’re right, I’ve not met Ian Byrne, but I did send him an e-mail and he was good enough to respond saying he had apologised for the tweet. I don’t dislike the fella, my point is Labour are selecting too many individuals for high-office who‘s background is TU. it’s a very narrow approach, they all talk the same talk.

Labour needs intellect rather than clones.

Why do you not dislike him if you think he has no values or decency? Do you think they're desirable traits?

 

[dholliday]

Labour can win an election with a manifesto like that with a different leader.

No. The electorate has adamantly told Labour that manifesto is grossly unappealing. Tony Blair showed what Labour has to do.

 

[Kenshin]

This is all just a repeat of the referendum.

Don't like the result? Blame it on 101 different reasons other than the truth.

Labour didn't win because of the media, Tory lies , the media telling you not to like Corbyn , brexit etc How is that different to people voted leave because they are all racists ?