Current Affairs The General Election

Voting Intentions

  • Labour

    Votes: 209 61.1%
  • Tories

    Votes: 30 8.8%
  • Lib Dems

    Votes: 20 5.8%
  • Brexit Gubbins

    Votes: 8 2.3%
  • Greens

    Votes: 8 2.3%
  • UKIP

    Votes: 1 0.3%
  • Change UK, if that's their current moniker

    Votes: 1 0.3%
  • SNP

    Votes: 4 1.2%
  • DUP

    Votes: 3 0.9%
  • Sinn Fein

    Votes: 9 2.6%
  • Alliance

    Votes: 4 1.2%
  • SDLP

    Votes: 2 0.6%
  • Plaid Cymru

    Votes: 4 1.2%
  • Some fringe party with a catchy name

    Votes: 7 2.0%
  • A plague on all your houses

    Votes: 32 9.4%

  • Total voters
    342
  • Poll closed .
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The difference is that Boris will attend any televised Leaders debate and wipe the floor with Corbyn.....

I'm very nervous of this such a view Pete. I remember the same being said about May 2 years ago. There's a lot of revisionism now and I have to say people seem to underestimate Corbyn.

That being said Johnson is far more suited to a debating game where longer answers are allowed. I'd say he was brighter than May and other Tory leaders but less polished, so he probably suits this approach.

Corbyn in the last set of debates held his own very well and Labour increased in the polls after them. I think this is partly because he too really struggles not to waffle on (so when allowed to does well). I also think, in all honesty people expect a bloke who is somewhere between James Connolly, John Lennon and Bin Laden and actually get a reasonable sweet grandad. The smears sort of have a reverse affect on him when people see him, as he's actually ok.

I'm not sure all of the above contradictions are resolved solely by a television debate. I'll also be frank, some of Johnsons performances at PMQ's have been very poor, almost akin to Ben Johnson interview on the thick of it.

To me his best chance in this election is to keep the debate on Brexit. If it is allowed to go off that subject area, Labour are much stronger and more populist.

If I was Labour, I'd be pushing to get Starmer and Mcdonnell involved as much as possible as they are by far and away the most credible speakers. They also seem to transcend their party.
 
I totally agree with the Tories that 16 year olds should NOT be given the vote.

At that age I had no common sense and spent most of my time furiously wanking into a sock over pictures of Jet from Gladiators.

Though to be fair I'm 40 now and still have no common sense, and still spend most of my time furiously wanking into a sock over pictures of Jet from Gladiators.
 
Fair analysis and I agree with the most part, but to me the salient point is wether it's GE campaigning or Brexit campaigning. As I noted before I think on GE stuff Labour can gain a lot but, as with the referendum and immigration, if the media make it just about Brexit then chaos will reign.

Yes very fair and just said as much to Pete above. That's going to be the key issue. That being said I really do think they are going to struggle to have an election solely on brevet for 6 weeks, especially as the issue is now basically when will Johnsons deal be voted through.

The key point for Labour is they have to get their manifesto to cut again. It is a better manifesto than 2017 (if we get the pledges from the conference) and will put the Tories massively on the back foot. It's not the terrain Cummins (himself a huge opponent of austerity and fiscal conservatism) wants to fight on.
 
I totally agree with the Tories that 16 year olds should NOT be given the vote.

At that age I had no common sense and spent most of my time furiously wanking into a sock over pictures of Jet from Gladiators.

Though to be fair I'm 40 now and still have no common sense, and still spend most of my time furiously wanking into a sock over pictures of Jet from Gladiators.

And yet you have the internet...
 
Hahaha.....Boris has already started electioneering.......
Good grief have you only noticed, it's been 100 days of tripe not Electioneering, example, oh look here is twenty thousand new police officers to replace the 21000 we sacked off. Only now he is legally going to be properly questioned by the press as we enter Purdah, which for Johnson, is what a church is for Damien.
 
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