Current Affairs The Far Right

[Kendall's Dream]

Whether you like him or not, Corbyn winning the next GE would be the best thing to happen

And before anyone mentions it, Corbyn is not extreme left.

 

[RAFUH]

That....isn't a thing.

Words have meanings.

Not in alternate facts world.

 

[mmmmsnouts]

I have a really, really long post in my head on this topic but before I go there I was wondering: Did Farage and UKIP have a full party platform or were they a one-issue party, that issue being immigration?

 

[Blue 1]

What we are witnessing atm in US particularly is actually a rise of leftist facism and domestic terrorismin backed by mainstream media.

"Leftist fascism" is an oxymoron.

Could you also provide some recent examples of leftist domestic terrorism in the US, please?

An angry mob smashing a few windows isn't terrorism, btw.

 

[Moomin]

Why? Yea I know..".shut up" like Milo in the Berkley University because certain people cant stand to hear talk from outside of their echo chamber.

I guess the students didn't want to listen to him mock transgender students or name the undocumented students in the hope that people would harass them.

Milo is a deplorable human being.

 

[Seathestars]

I think the far right and far left are closer to each other than they imagine.
Read the horseshoe theory.

Anything far either way is not good, to me it means you are too set in your ways to even contemplate being wrong.
As this thread was about the far right however I will say this, I feel for the children of some of these fanatics, what chance do they have in this world when they are taught ignorance from birth.

 

[TheFinnFan]

"Leftist fascism" is an oxymoron.

Could you also provide some recent examples of leftist domestic terrorism in the US, please?

An angry mob smashing a few windows isn't terrorism, btw.

Maybe you should check dictionary and see the definition of terrorism.

 

[TheFinnFan]

I guess the students didn't want to listen to him mock transgender students or name the undocumented students in the hope that people would harass them.

Milo is a deplorable human being.

For a leftist he is a huge problem alright.

 

[Woolly Blue]

I for one have had enough of them. They're not big nor clever. It's not 'alt-right', let's call it what it is - pure fascism.

All decent people must not stand for a potential rise of this. History will not look favourably upon the silent. Protest peacefully, and make your voice heard. The world ain't perfect by any stretch of the imagination, but I feel there is more good than bad and we cannot stand by and watch it burn.

If you've ever asked yourself what you'd have done as a citizen in mid-1930's Germany to stop Hitler, now would be a good time to find out.

What are you defining as far right ?

In UK terms, most people would have put the BNP in the far right locker, but is UKIP far right, or is it just a bit further along to the right than the tories ?

My politics tend to be left of centre, so UKIP looks perilously close to far right to me, but tories won't see them as far right.

Good thread by the way. Hopefully someone ends up with the first "current affairs forum" ban on the back of it and then calls the mods dictators in the Ale House !

 

[Tree13]

What are you defining as far right ?

In UK terms, most people would have put the BNP in the far right locker, but is UKIP far right, or is it just a bit further along to the right than the tories ?

My politics tend to be left of centre, so UKIP looks perilously close to far right to me, but tories won't see them as far right.

Good thread by the way. Hopefully someone ends up with the first "current affairs forum" ban on the back of it and then calls the mods dictators in the Ale House !

Woolly's highlighting a very interesting facet of this discussion. The labels "far right" and "far left" should be objective.... but for most people, they are not. Any individual person's identification of a politician, policy or party as being "far right", "far left", "right of centre" or "left of centre" PARTLY relies upon where that individual views the "centre" to be. Woolly identifies his politics as left of centre, and identify my own as high of centre.... but where would we view each other to be? Where would an observer consider us to be? Where would a group of 100 observers place us, based on their consensus opinion? A thousand observers?

The phrases "far right" and "far left", if they are to be universally accepted as labels of any actual definite, reliable value, need to be objectively placed on a spectrum that is itself objective. However most people use them simply to demonize any view that is deemed by themselves to be sufficiently distant from their own. This habit risks trivialising the use of those labels, doesn't it?

 

[Blue 1]

Maybe you should check dictionary and see the definition of terrorism.

By the absolute loosest definition of the term you might call a protest in which a few windows get smashed "terrorism", but most people would think you were being laughably melodramatic, or to use your language, a "special snowflake".

Practically all domestic terrorism in recent years in the US has come from the right.

 

[Tree13]

By the absolute loosest definition of the term you might call a protest which turns a bit violent "terrorism", but most people would think you were being laughably melodramatic.

Respectfully disagree.

"The unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims." - Oxford English dictionary definition of "terrorism"

https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/terrorism

A violent protest against or for a political point is defined as terrorism.

 

[coollino]

The people on the right seem to lap up whatever they get on social media. I havent encountered many rights who disagree with some right wing writes veiws yet there appear to be loads of lefts who actively disagree with a fair bit of left wing writing and the terrible Jack Monroe Comment is Free article's. A lot of the Guardian columnists are awful. I rarely see the right self criticise.

I guess this may be showing why the right are doing well at the moment, much more unity

 

[Clint Planet]

Liberal lunatics match those far right idiots everyday in their stupidity.

Whether that is the case or not - and ignoring your own cheerleading of "those far right idiots" on these very pages, time and again, day after day - it is not the "Liberal Lunatics" (I'll assume you mean the Far Left and not democratic progressives) who are in power and spreading hate and lies - it is the Far Right.

 

[Groucho]

What are you defining as far right ?

In UK terms, most people would have put the BNP in the far right locker, but is UKIP far right, or is it just a bit further along to the right than the tories ?

My politics tend to be left of centre, so UKIP looks perilously close to far right to me, but tories won't see them as far right.

Good thread by the way. Hopefully someone ends up with the first "current affairs forum" ban on the back of it and then calls the mods dictators in the Ale House !

I'm talking fascism.