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I understand the freedom of speech argument, but the issue I have is not just with their vile rhetoric but the physical actions of marching in military style formations in body armour through a street, I can only assume the constitution protects their rights to do so which is very worrying
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I don't agree that free speech has no limits. Anything that's either blatantly racist or incites racial hatred should be deemed as infringing the law.
I wonder if anonymous has truly hacked the Dailystormer or if it is just a stunt since godaddy has dropped hosting that horrifically vile site. Anonymous doesn't claim responsibility. Though they also couldn't 100% know themselves as they aren't a centralized group.
Surely Freedom of speech only covers the person on the podium talking hate.
The people standing in assembly with weapons, flags and misspelled signs is more of an expressive thing than speech. They are their supporting those spouting hate.
The guy in the car mowing people down or the guys physically assaulting people is not and should not be considered freedom of speech.
I agree that the freedom of speech is a must and protecting the constitution is ingrained in american society but it was written in a time were you could shoot thy neighbour if you so wished if they offended you. It was written in a time that hasn't devolved like it has now. The forefathers set the tone and man did thrive in the US but to see thing devolve and people stand behind this protection without recourse is an issue.
Laws and rules can be respected and left alone but their comes a time to amend them slightly. Sure didn't they themselves amend it over time to get it right?
Freedom of speech and freedom of assembly are the same thing, or at least under the same umbrella
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."
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Still, if those "extremely unsavo(u)ry characters, guys worse than Twain" show up in my town I don't think I'll be leaving them alone.
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I did not realise they were thank you.
Siri confirmed centrist. lol
Maybe go into settings and change her accent to Australian (Male) and see what happens.
In June 2015, Dylann Roof was inspired by the “hate facts” posted on Daily Stormer and Council of Conservative Citizens to murder nine people at a black church in Charleston, South Carolina.
In July 2015, John Russell Houser, a far-right former bar owner, shot and killed two people and injured nine others before committing suicide in a Lafayette, LA movie theater which was playing Trainwreck, due to its feminist themes and characters, as well as its lead actor's Jewish background. Houser was said to have been a misogynist and praised the actions of Adolf Hitler on online message boards.
In November of 2015, a group of well-armed 4chan regulars attended a Black Lives Matter camp in Minneapolis, harassing them with racial slurs. They opened fire on activists attempting to chase them out when they returned a second night, wounding five.
An antifascist protester of Milo Yiannopolous was shot in stomach on Inauguration Day by Elizabeth Hakoana, who came to the protest with her husband, who planned to “crack skulls” of the “snowflakes” at the event and provoke a reaction to justify shooting someone.
Later in January, Alexandre Bisonette, a supporter of Donald Trump and Marine Le Pen, opened fire on a Quebec City Islamic Culutral Center, killing six.
In February, a white U.S. Navy veteran, Adam Purinton, 51, killed an Indian engineer, wounded his Indian co-worker, and shot a man who tried to stop the murder at a bar in Olathe, KS while yelling "get out of my country."
In March, James Jackson, a subscriber of Alt Right Youtube channels, traveled from Baltimore to New York with the sole purpose of murdering a black person at random. He stabbed Timothy Caughman, killing him.
Sean Christopher Urbanski, a University of Maryland student and member of online alt-right facebook groups, randomly stabbed to death black Army Officer Richard Collins III in Baltimore.
Jeremy Christian stabbed 3 people in Portland, killing 2, who intervened to tell him to stop making racist remarks to two young poc women on a light rail train.
Anthony Robert Hammond hacked a random black man with a machete after yelling racial slurs at numerous people in Clearlake, CA in May.
Jimmy Kramer, a 20 year old Native American, was run over during his birthday party in Washington state by a man and woman in a large pickup truck who first circled the party yelling racial slurs and taunts at the group from inside the truck. Kramer died and his friend was hospitalized.
In July 2015, John Russell Houser, a far-right former bar owner, shot and killed two people and injured nine others before committing suicide in a Lafayette, LA movie theater which was playing Trainwreck, due to its feminist themes and characters, as well as its lead actor's Jewish background. Houser was said to have been a misogynist and praised the actions of Adolf Hitler on online message boards.
In November of 2015, a group of well-armed 4chan regulars attended a Black Lives Matter camp in Minneapolis, harassing them with racial slurs. They opened fire on activists attempting to chase them out when they returned a second night, wounding five.
An antifascist protester of Milo Yiannopolous was shot in stomach on Inauguration Day by Elizabeth Hakoana, who came to the protest with her husband, who planned to “crack skulls” of the “snowflakes” at the event and provoke a reaction to justify shooting someone.
Later in January, Alexandre Bisonette, a supporter of Donald Trump and Marine Le Pen, opened fire on a Quebec City Islamic Culutral Center, killing six.
In February, a white U.S. Navy veteran, Adam Purinton, 51, killed an Indian engineer, wounded his Indian co-worker, and shot a man who tried to stop the murder at a bar in Olathe, KS while yelling "get out of my country."
In March, James Jackson, a subscriber of Alt Right Youtube channels, traveled from Baltimore to New York with the sole purpose of murdering a black person at random. He stabbed Timothy Caughman, killing him.
Sean Christopher Urbanski, a University of Maryland student and member of online alt-right facebook groups, randomly stabbed to death black Army Officer Richard Collins III in Baltimore.
Jeremy Christian stabbed 3 people in Portland, killing 2, who intervened to tell him to stop making racist remarks to two young poc women on a light rail train.
Anthony Robert Hammond hacked a random black man with a machete after yelling racial slurs at numerous people in Clearlake, CA in May.
Jimmy Kramer, a 20 year old Native American, was run over during his birthday party in Washington state by a man and woman in a large pickup truck who first circled the party yelling racial slurs and taunts at the group from inside the truck. Kramer died and his friend was hospitalized.
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Freedom of speech though covers all speech no matter how vile or detestable it may be.
Limiting freedom of speech, even if right minded in its original intent, would open the door to any number of unintended circumstances.
How did it come to this? The situation pointed out above is pure comedy, if seen in a manner to ridicule the participants. Their version of Malcolm's disciplined men in serious suits is polo shirts and tiki torches? The trouble is that the comedy ends when somebody's dead, and somebody died. The racist pinheads gathered in one spot, then the Antifa headbangers showed up, right on schedule. Over Robert E. Lee's statue. It always starts with a statue or a flag. Tribal thinking erupts, the present trends toward identity politics follow their expected course and at the end, there's a dead person somewhere.
What do Antifa and the alt-right mob have in common? They both hate America. The alt-right mob marched mostly behind some kind of knockoff Nazi or fascist flag, and not the American flag. White, yes, but “nationalists”? They are not trying to “Make America great again” even in the Trumpian sense. They want it to be a different country. Antifa, of course, has no use for the American flag except to burn it. They also want this to be a different country. If they do carry a flag, its likely to be a familiar foreign one. Both groups should be labeled as Un-American. They deserve each other.
This sucks, and it's not going to get better anytime soon.
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