Current Affairs The Far Right

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Live in VA. About an hour from Charlottesville. The thing about that area, it's a college town. They aren't even in school at the moment. There is talk of there being something in Richmond(where I live) in a month. That REALLY won't go down well if it happens.


The more divisive the more you think there might be another Civil War but really between cities and the country.
 
Actually remember something from yesterday(was a bit drunk). Got in a pretty heated argument with someone about how this is terrorism. The guy couldn't see the difference between this and the Witsel-delaying Nice attacks.
 
Why woulld they be? The President of the United States is one of them - you don't get much more validation than that.

Seen him described as their 'enabler' today, which in every context is factually true and frightening in equal measure. He is forming his own already armed SS that will accelerate the division through genuine, non comic book, fear.

Really is beyond belief the lack of fuss about all this.
 
Read an interesting point re this today, how in photos or film of alt right, none of them seem to be using masks because they know they won't be being followed up by police, a valid point I believe.
Although I unfortunately agree it would be unlikely they would be followed up on given police seemed to take a hands-off approach to the protests, even when they got violent, think it has more to do with this Virginian law.
§ 18.2-422. Prohibition of wearing of masks in certain places; exceptions.
It shall be unlawful for any person over 16 years of age to, with the intent to conceal his identity, wear any mask, hood or other device whereby a substantial portion of the face is hidden or covered so as to conceal the identity of the wearer, to be or appear in any public place, or upon any private property in this Commonwealth without first having obtained from the owner or tenant thereof consent to do so in writing. However, the provisions of this section shall not apply to persons (i) wearing traditional holiday costumes; (ii) engaged in professions, trades, employment or other activities and wearing protective masks which are deemed necessary for the physical safety of the wearer or other persons; (iii) engaged in any bona fide theatrical production or masquerade ball; or (iv) wearing a mask, hood or other device for bona fide medical reasons upon (a) the advice of a licensed physician or osteopath and carrying on his person an affidavit from the physician or osteopath specifying the medical necessity for wearing the device and the date on which the wearing of the device will no longer be necessary and providing a brief description of the device, or (b) the declaration of a disaster or state of emergency by the Governor in response to a public health emergency where the emergency declaration expressly waives this section, defines the mask appropriate for the emergency, and provides for the duration of the waiver. The violation of any provisions of this section is a Class 6 felony.

Code 1950, §§ 18.1-364, 18.1-367; 1960, c. 358; 1975, cc. 14, 15; 1986, c. 19; 2010, cc. 262, 420; 2014, c. 167.
 
RIP Heather, amazing strength and forgiveness by her mother in this interview.

RUCKERSVILLE, Va. ― Susan Bro sat in her darkened home on Sunday, tearing up as she smiled.

She was thinking fondly of her daughter, 32-year-old Heather Heyer, who was killed in Charlottesville, Virginia the day before after a man drove his car into protesters of the “Unite the Right” rally, a gathering of white supremacist groups.
Heather, a paralegal who lived in Charlottesville, was determined to stand up to injustice, her mother told HuffPost. There was no question that she would protest throngs of neo-Nazis and other extremists that had descended on her town.
“She always had a very strong sense of right and wrong, she always, even as a child, was very caught up in what she believed to be fair,” Bro said. “Somehow I almost feel that this is what she was born to be, is a focal point for change. I’m proud that what she was doing was peaceful, she wasn’t there fighting with people.”

She recalled that her daughter was charitable and reached out to the underprivileged. Bro said Heather used invite friends who were “having a hard time” to stay with them, sometimes for months. Anyone who needed help received it from Heather, Bro said. Others who knew Heyer expressed similar sentiments. A neighbor in Charlottesville told HuffPost that, “she lived her life like her path ― and it was for justice.” A GoFundMe page set up Heyer’s name by a family friend said that Heyer was killed “while protesting against hate.”

20-year-old James Field Jr. was arrested and charged with 2nd degree murder over the crash. Field was in Charlottesville attending the “Unite the Right” rally and was photographed with a shield bearing a white supremacist emblem hours before the attack. “I think he’s still very young, and I’m sorry he believed that hate could fix problems. Hate only brings more hate,” Bro said. “Heather was not about hate, Heather was about stopping hatred. Heather was about bringing an end to injustice.

She began to cry as she added, “I don’t want her death to be a focus for more hatred, I want her death to be a rallying cry for justice and equality and fairness and compassion. I’m very sorry that [Fields] chose that path because he has now ruined his life as well as robbed a great many of us of someone we love very much.” “No mother wants to lose a child, but I’m proud of her,” she said. “I’m proud of what she did.”
 
Bit of a back and forth going on twitter among some C'ville residents about the part-culpability of the ACLU. The idea is that the ACLU argued to keep the location at the downtown park on behalf of the neo-nazis, thereby strongly increasing the risk of violence on congested streets, whereas the city wanted to move the demonstration out of town, to another location potentially allaying the violence as things are more spread out.

But if you read the ACLU's orginal letter, it is not so clear cut, and (at least for me) they are not culpable here...they do what they always do: argue on behalf of the minority, no matter how despicable that minority might be, and do it quite well. Not to mention that there is no guarantee safety no matter where the demonstration took place.

Don't get me wrong it is lose-lose and very tragic, no matter what folks opinion on the matter is.

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