The Everton Board Thread (Inc. Bill Kenwright / Blue Union)

[BoysInBlue]

If the local press, post and RSrag echo, aint buying go national. Aim for the top, the big papers, the Sundays. Print as many copies as possible and hand out at games.I know printing aint cheap but if every member printed a hundred each that would generate thousands, if as BU say many thousands of evertonians support them, then we're talking tens of thousands of copies. Send copies to every newspaper editor in the country. Take out a full page ad in one of the nationals. Shouting crap through a car park fence in childish and embarrassing. If the BU are serious, which i don't doubt for one minute, then get advice from a pro how to run a media campaign. Prove to EVERY Evertonian that they are telling the truth. Show us that they can run their campaign with dignity, without petty and childish carryings on, without underhanded tactics or unproven allegations and they will win the majority over. As it currently stands the majority of blues distrust the BU as much if not more than BK.

I agree with some of what you are saying. The fence incident was unfortunate; I felt the lads involved did themselves proud, they didn't resort to foul language or abuse. They asked questions, which Kenwright refused to answer, quite rightly, as he's not going to have an indepth conversation with them there and then. However the way Kenwright acted was embarrassing; the manner in which he stood there with his phone with a grin on his face as he blanked them, then made his infamous 'betrayal' comment; there was no need for it. Why not just get out of the car, say nothing and go in? Or even out of the car, say "Afternoon lads, look, I can't stand here and discuss this with you now, we've got a game to win this afternoon." and go in? That would have been the professional way to go about things. Not label fans. Not accuse them of 'betrayals' or use emotive language.

Kenwright has great support in the national media, an area that does not regard Everton Football Club as an area of importance. They simplify the story to bulletpoints - Blue Bill; Skint Club; very good boss in Moyes; Plucky underachievers. Club for sale. End of story. BK has people watching his back - Martin Samuel in the Daily Mail. Oliver Kay in today's Times. David Maddock has defended him in the Mirror in the past. All key people. Olly Holt of the Mirror is another one. It's really hard to get coverage when certain journo's views are established. Very few journos change their opinions on a subject once they've established it, even when presented with all the evidence and urged to explore the subject further. There's ego involved and professional pride.

Your ideas of leaflets and adverts and posters and all these things are valid and great. My point is, media assistance is the key, and unfortunately, many of the media are in BK's camp. Not all, but a signficant, influential few. This makes any campaign so much harder.

 

[Mvflusk]

Hard not to brand some people BU members when those people go around pigeon holing at best and at worst outright abusing people who don't believe Kenwright is the antichrist sent from hades to destroy the glorious high flying club St Johnson left behind.

Do unto others an that.

And if BK isn't accused of skimming money, why are "other operating costs" constantly referenced by the Blue Union, and why is he constantly asked "where is this money" "where is that money"? We know where the money goes. The banks.

 

[Goat]

Hes not the Anti-Christ, hes a very naughty boy!




And just cos you share a viewpoint with a certain group of people, it doesnt mean your a member of said group.

 

[BoysInBlue]

Vibrac or whatever you call that Cayman Island refinance... (bridging loan)

Plenty of BU members on here claimed that Bill's mates were creaming it from that.


I can vault you if you want?

First of all, define 'cream'. Second of all, that's 'Bill's mates' - not Bill himself.

Earl makes money off lending us money. That's fact, based on the % commission that the Cayman Islands loan company earns.

 

[Matt Damon]

First of all, define 'cream'. Second of all, that's 'Bill's mates' - not Bill himself.

Earl makes money off lending us money. That's fact, based on the % commission that the Cayman Islands loan company earns.

No need to vault. The lid just repeated those claims.

 

[bourneblue]

The bu simply sidestep any issues raised regarding their underhand tactics by claiming they have nothing to do with any events that may tarnish their reputation.
What you can be sure of it's their followers who carry out their dirty deeds, as shown quiete clearly in car park incident.
They don't deny they were present but claim to have no involvement.
They just stumbled upon it ? Yeah right ! They knew it was going to happen that's why they were there.
And this is why so many evertonians mistrust them.

 

[Goat]

No need to vault. The lid just repeated those claims.

And is this boy a BU member??

Does he have a card?

 

[Mvflusk]

Besides the four who run the show, is there any such thing as a "member" of the Blue Union? Do they have a formal membership process?

In my eyes if you go to the meetings and attend the marches, you're a member.

 

[Matt Damon]

And is this boy a BU member??

Does he have a card?

Lets ask him shall we?


Lid are you a BU member?

 

[BoysInBlue]

Hard not to brand some people BU members when those people go around pigeon holing at best and at worst outright abusing people who don't believe Kenwright is the antichrist sent from hades to destroy the glorious high flying club St Johnson left behind.

Do unto others an that.

And if BK isn't accused of skimming money, why are "other operating costs" constantly referenced by the Blue Union, and why is he constantly asked "where is this money" "where is that money"? We know where the money goes. The banks.

Well, why don't the club just say what the 'operating costs' are then? And why, if the 'operating costs' are money that goes to the banks, listed as an entirely separate things to 'the money that goes to the banks' that is already listed on the company's accounts? Sorry, your explanation doesn't fly mate.

It's a simple question: Where does the Operating Costs of £24m a year go? If there's nothing nefarious to it - and of course there isn't, everything at Everton is entirely above board no doubt and everyone is acting in professional manner - then why not just explain this figure? It can't be that hard. Well, Kenwright found it hard. Maybe Elstone would like to answer. He won't though. So people are bound to start thinking the worst without answers.

 

[fozzy]

That's the point Fozzy - any buyer is only buying goodwill, an intangible item on the balance sheet. There are no assets left, the only thing left because it is intangible can be destroyed through badly thought out actions by Bill, protesters or anyone else connected with the club. If all you are selling is goodwill, you should do everything to maintain it!

but shouldnt that be bill who has to try to maintain it?

no us the supporters who make £0 out of a sale??

 

[Mvflusk]

Well, why don't the club just say what the 'operating costs' are then? And why, if the 'operating costs' are money that goes to the banks, listed as an entirely separate things to 'the money that goes to the banks' that is already listed on the company's accounts? Sorry, your explanation doesn't fly mate.

It's a simple question: Where does the Operating Costs of £24m a year go? If there's nothing nefarious to it - and of course there isn't, everything at Everton is entirely above board no doubt and everyone is acting in professional manner - then why not just explain this figure? It can't be that hard. Well, Kenwright found it hard. Maybe Elstone would like to answer. He won't though. So people are bound to start thinking the worst without answers.

The operating costs aren't what goes to the banks.

"Other operating costs" are just that. OTHER stuff. If theres something that isn't specifically referenced elsewhere in the balance sheet, that's where it is. There's no conspiracy.

 

[BoysInBlue]

The bu simply sidestep any issues raised regarding their underhand tactics by claiming they have nothing to do with any events that may tarnish their reputation.
What you can be sure of it's their followers who carry out their dirty deeds, as shown quiete clearly in car park incident.
They don't deny they were present but claim to have no involvement.
They just stumbled upon it ? Yeah right ! They knew it was going to happen that's why they were there.
And this is why so many evertonians mistrust them.

What underhand tactics? You're not going on about the alleged taping recording are you, that the club never proved and after threatening legal action, never took any. Honestly, why do you think that is? Maybe because their claims were without any proof?

What was 'underhand' about the car park incident? A few lads shouting through a fence as Kenwright arrived, one of whom filmed it. Big deal. It's hardly graffiting his property, or even jumping on the back of his car like one lid did to Peter Johnson back in the day. Bill's getting off easy if you want to paint him as some sort of victim.

 

[thebluefox]

The operating costs aren't what goes to the banks.

"Other operating costs" are just that. OTHER stuff. If theres something that isn't specifically referenced elsewhere in the balance sheet, that's where it is. There's no conspiracy.

were do you get your info from , ? you still buying the mirror

 

[fozzy]

Vibrac or whatever you call that Cayman Island refinance... (bridging loan)

Plenty of BU members on here claimed that Bill's mates were creaming it from that.


I can vault you if you want?

try vaulting your self pal!!

im sure we got taken over last summer ect....!!!