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I'm sorry that a lot of people find it difficult to contemplate but this man and his ilk voted with the intention of making life for the LGBT+ community (of which I'm a part), as well as mothers with unexpected pregnancies even more difficult. His vote would have had a direct, detrimental impact on our lives if his vote won, then you add his views on women coming out in the aftermath of the accusations against Harvey Weinstein in 2017 and his views on voting Remain.

I'm not happy he died but am I not sad.

I disagree with everything this man stood for.

We need to to have a political environment where opposing views can operate safely.

Paris mate, murder is not some sort of justifiable political viewpoint.
 


Sort of thing that you can't really win.

Economy does better than expected = he's stockpiling future pre-election tax cuts. What an a$shole.
Economy does worse than expected = his policies aren't working and he doesn't know what he's doing. What an a$shole.
 
I disagree with everything this man stood for.

We need to to have a political environment where opposing views can operate safely.

Paris mate, murder is not some sort of justifiable political viewpoint.

This isn't just opposing views though is it? It's more than that. What he voted for would have been tangible, nasty and very real.
 
This isn't just opposing views though is it? It's more than that. What he voted for would have been tangible, nasty and very real.

I am finished here tonight mate.

I support ,and will defend you 100%, re your life and choices.

I can't agree with you that this man's murder, no matter how much we both agreed with his views, was somehow understandable or justified.

Take care and stay safe.
 
I'm sorry that a lot of people find it difficult to contemplate but this man and his ilk voted with the intention of making life for the LGBT+ community (of which I'm a part), as well as mothers with unexpected pregnancies even more difficult. His vote would have had a direct, detrimental impact on our lives if his vote won, then you add his views on women coming out in the aftermath of the accusations against Harvey Weinstein in 2017 and his views on voting Remain.

I'm not happy he died but am I not sad.

Looking at Amess’s voting record I dont see him as someone I would have much time for. Many of his views, shown from what he voted for, seem opposite of mine and some of them I could not imagine anyone with an ounce good conscience voting for.

However, seen many posts on social media or on the news telling of genuine acts of kindness he had shown, and things that speak to him being an honest, conscientious, hard working local MP. All that says he was a genuinely good person. With elements of politics that i recognize as good.

Indeed Amess was very much into animal rights and successfully got an act passed which banned cruel tethering of animals. Amess was also one of the few Conservative MPs that voted to ban fox hunting. He also brought about the warm homes and energy act which helped reduce some fuel poverty.
And he successfully campaigned to have a statue in honour of Raoul Wallenberg who died saving thousands of Jews in Nazi occupied Hungary.

It is fairly simple, but it’s something many seem to have forgotten. People of good character may hold views that we fundamentally disagree with. And the if they act with good character, the onus is on you or I to respect this difference.

However, as said earlier this was very much the lesson Jo Cox death gave us and yet here we are again...
 
I am finished here tonight mate.

I support ,and will defend you 100%, re your life and choices.

I can't agree with you that this man's murder, no matter how much we both agreed with his views, was somehow understandable or justified.

Take care and stay safe.

Have a nice evening ;)

.....but they wouldn’t have been murder. Did you disagree with his work regarding animal welfare?

We'd have been denied the right to be treated as equals had his vote won.

I'm done here too. Have a good evening all.
 
I'm sorry that a lot of people find it difficult to contemplate but this man and his ilk voted with the intention of making life for the LGBT+ community (of which I'm a part), as well as mothers with unexpected pregnancies even more difficult. His vote would have had a direct, detrimental impact on our lives if his vote won, then you add his views on women coming out in the aftermath of the accusations against Harvey Weinstein in 2017 and his views on voting Remain.

I'm not happy he died but am I not sad.
If you really, genuinely, honestly don't understand how disgustingly, unacceptably wrong your final sentence is, I hope one of the moderating team will go above and beyond the call of duty and explain it to you via private message.
 
Whatever you may think of his social conservatism, if you cannot see the fundamental qualities about a man who organises concerts for disabled children and donates the royalties for his book to charities supporting disabled children, prostate cancer and womens' fertility then you need to look at yourself in the mirror very seriously.

One of the things about growing up and being a fully functioning adult is that you realise you don't have to see eye to eye with other people in order the appreciate them.
 
Whatever you may think of his social conservatism, if you cannot see the fundamental qualities about a man who organises concerts for disabled children and donates the royalties for his book to charities supporting disabled children, prostate cancer and womens' fertility then you need to look at yourself in the mirror very seriously.

One of the things about growing up and being a fully functioning adult is that you realise you don't have to see eye to eye with other people in order the appreciate them.
True. People go on that the country is divided but most people have mates and family from all sorts of political, religious, ethnic backgrounds. I don’t want to agree with everything everyone says.
 
I see the left wingers are out in force, slagging off a dead man because he’s a ‘nasty Tory’, without any level of self awareness whatsoever.
Unfortunately the die was cast in this respect the moment Angela Rayner got away with her use of hateful language towards Tories a week or so back. Once the BBC, Channel 4, the Guardian and so forth all gleefully ran the story of what she said, they cleverly exerted all the pressure necessary to make sure that Starmer was forced to let it go unpunished. Thus it becomes normalised, and look where we are now.
 
Unfortunately the die was cast in this respect the moment Angela Rayner got away with her use of hateful language towards Tories a week or so back. Once the BBC, Channel 4, the Guardian and so forth all gleefully ran the story of what she said, they cleverly exerted all the pressure necessary to make sure that Starmer was forced to let it go unpunished. Thus it becomes normalised, and look where we are now.

I think this started long before that. Look at the Murdoch papers for the last 5 years or so.
 
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