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[tommytowne]

I'll dip my toe into this shark infested topic by asking is there anybody else out there who doesn't realise that any contributions made today pay for today's costs.
There is no accumulated fund with your name on it for when you may need it in your later years.
I'm astounded at the number of people who are surprised when they are told this. I was made aware of this when I started work in the sixties.

 

[neil999]

I can see the downtrodden swallowing this whole 'well I guess we have to pay for it somehow' and 'they are doing their best after covid'

 

[RomanReigns]

 

[tommytowne]

I can see the downtrodden swallowing this whole 'well I guess we have to pay for it somehow' and 'they are doing their best after covid'

Totally agree with your two quoted topics.

 

[tsubaki]

I can see the downtrodden swallowing this whole 'well I guess we have to pay for it somehow' and 'they are doing their best after covid'

Certainly that is what the weaselry on the government backbenches seem to believe, their brave stances of a few days ago having seemingly evaporated in the heat.

This is a risible tax rise that is again probably going to have no other effect than to transfer money from the less well off to the well off (in this case care firms and the current well off elderly types).

If they wanted to do this properly, the care sector needed to be taken in house first (so costs could be controlled) and then you could bring in a separate tax for everyone to contribute into towards their own care costs.

If people don’t want, need or already have care, they could opt out on the understanding that they would have to pay the full cost (or a %) later on.

 

[neil999]

Certainly that is what the weaselry on the government backbenches seem to believe, their brave stances of a few days ago having seemingly evaporated in the heat.

This is a risible tax rise that is again probably going to have no other effect than to transfer money from the less well off to the well off (in this case care firms and the current well off elderly types).

If they wanted to do this properly, the care sector needed to be taken in house first (so costs could be controlled) and then you could bring in a separate tax for everyone to contribute into towards their own care costs.

If people don’t want, need or already have care, they could opt out on the understanding that they would have to pay the full cost (or a %) later on.

Hopefully people might start to question them being on the side of the working class now lol

 

[Hickson9]

Taxing the poor to pay for the care of the rich.

It isn't a defensible position.

 

[Kurt.]

@peteblue not been online since last Thursday, I know he’s not been well lately, hope all is ok with him.

 

[Kev The Rat]

Taxing the poor to pay for the care of the rich.

It isn't a defensible position.

the poor have been getting screwed in terms of care as well. old grannies selling whatever little they have for shocking, even abusive levels of 'care'

hopefully this will at least stop people having to end up penniless through no fault of their own.

 

[Paris]

@peteblue not been online since last Thursday, I know he’s not been well lately, hope all is ok with him.

FHHD

Apologies if you're not yet, Pete.

 

[Paris]

the poor have been getting screwed in terms of care as well. old grannies selling whatever little they have for shocking, even abusive levels of 'care'

hopefully this will at least stop people having to end up penniless through no fault of their own.

On the boomers, George Carlin said it best in the first 30 seconds.

 

[Kev The Rat]

On the boomers, George Carlin said it best in the first 30 seconds.

yeah its everyones fault isnt it, the boomers, the grannies, the rich - who isnt to blame??

 

[Paris]

 

[Charlie Sweet]

So does anyone think the Tories will get some kickback from today's NI tax rise against their election pledge or is just all lost in covid....?

 

[NilSatisOptimum]

Taxing the poor to pay for the care of the rich.

It isn't a defensible position.

They call it the levelling up agenda...